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    Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto? I think if he thought that taking Ani was for the greater good then he should have just done it. What was Watto going to do about it? Slavery was against the law for the republic, wasn't it? And, for QGJ to say that he couldn't free Schmi is just plain ludicrous. Watto could not do anyhting about him just taking her. It's not like anyone on Tatooine would give a rip about what happened to Watto anyway considering he was just a shady junk dealer. I think that the jedi mind trick should have worked nicely on Watto because he didn't appear to be all that bright. I dunno, maybe there is something here I'm missing. Lemme know why Watto had bargaining power with the jedi.
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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    When they were eating at Ani's home, ani and Shmi explained that all slaves have a device planted in them so they can't escape. (remember the line "any atempt to escape and they blow you up") I would assume that device would be controlled by the slave's owner. Therefore, Qui Gon could not take Ani without the device being deactivated or removed by Watto. This was just my interpretation of the story...
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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Because George had the bright idea to make little Ani a slave (the better for the audience to empathize with him), but his mommy had to be left behind so that Ani would have something to obsess about for a decade or so, have bad dreams about, and eventually help "cause his fall to the Dark Side".

    I swear, there are times when I wonder if Lucas could have made a worse movie than TPM if he had actually been trying to sabotage the property. Parts of AOTC have convinced me that he could, but that it might not take much effort.

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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Quote Originally Posted by CropDuster
    Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto? I think if he thought that taking Ani was for the greater good then he should have just done it. What was Watto going to do about it? Slavery was against the law for the republic, wasn't it? And, for QGJ to say that he couldn't free Schmi is just plain ludicrous. Watto could not do anyhting about him just taking her. It's not like anyone on Tatooine would give a rip about what happened to Watto anyway considering he was just a shady junk dealer. I think that the jedi mind trick should have worked nicely on Watto because he didn't appear to be all that bright. I dunno, maybe there is something here I'm missing. Lemme know why Watto had bargaining power with the jedi.
    QGJ tried the jedi mind trick first. it didn't work on Watto, he even states - "what do you think you are some type of jedi, i'm a toydarian mind tricks do not work on me."

    As for Ani and Shmi, anakin answers that one. he states that slaves have a explosive device implanted which prevents them from leaving. he's trying to build a scanner for it, but hasn't been successful yet.

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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    We learn in the Trilogy that mind tricks work on the weak minded. Why in the world does Lucas create this new idea that mind tricks will fail against certain species? That makes no sense at all. Watto was just a crooked junk salesman; probably not the brightest guy. So GL decides to invent this "mind tricks don't work on some species" BS so his crummy movie will work.
    Still, QG was a big bad dude and Watto a coward. I expect a life threat would have procured the freedom of Ani's mom. But, again, GL's story wouldn't have worked, then.

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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Watto states the only thing that affects a Toydarian's thinking is money. One track minded, they cant fall for anything else.

    Also, the Republic gad no control on Tatooine. If the Republic credits were no good there, then why would their lgaws be?
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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Quote Originally Posted by rbaumhauer
    I swear, there are times when I wonder if Lucas could have made a worse movie than TPM if he had actually been trying to sabotage the property.
    He DID... it was called RETURN OF THE JEDI.
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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    Quote Originally Posted by JEDIpartnr
    He DID... it was called RETURN OF THE JEDI.
    You'll get no argument from me that ROTJ is, by far, the weakest movie of the OT - the only group that regularly claims to like ROTJ the most of the OT are people who were 7-8 years old when they saw it. Is it worse than TPM? I don't think so, but then again, we're merely talking about different shades of bad, aren't we?

    For my money, Lucas clearly lost the ability to make (or allow to be made, since he was neither writing nor directing back then) a decent "Star Wars" movie after ESB. Why? I'm sure there are lots of reasons, but I have a sneaking suspicion that, ESB having proved that "Star Wars" was a license to print money, he either got lazy, or started making decisions based more on marketing concerns than real story concerns.

    It has been well-documented that, when it came time to actually make ROTJ, Lucas was really sick of "Star Wars", and basically just wanted to get it done and move on. He was in the process of removing himself from Hollywood, and seemed much more concerned with building the Ranch than making a SW movie. In the Annotated Screenplays, there are many instances of Lucas vetoing story suggestions that would have given the movie some depth (ie, Han or Luke or Lando getting killed) because he didn't want to do anything in the movie that might make children feel bad (as he had in his own childhood when a "good guy" got killed).

    Since ROTJ is really the thematic jumping-off point for the PT, and Lucas was clearly not at the top of his game when ROTJ was made, it's hardly surprising that the PT is a bit lacking (to say the least).

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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    I think I like all of the political aspects and Jedi Knights in TPM. Those elements make TPM a better movie for me. I'm not a total "prequel" hater like many people are. I will accept your reasons for not liking things as much as I hope others will accept mine.
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    Re: Why did Qui-Gon bargain with Watto?

    If a Jedi goes outside the Republic and frees slaves, he's compromising his integrity as a diplomat and negotiator. Slavery is deplorable, but on Tatooine at this time, it's legal.

    At worst, it could start a war between the Republic and Tatooine. . . and through them, the Hutts. That would be bad. (Keep in mind Qui-Gon has no idea that the Republic will be in a much worse war a decade later.)
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