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    What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    Apparently, a rainbow coloured object was seen in the skies over a western Cleveland suburb and photographed by a number of people. There was also some videotape shot of the same object. That was September 26th.

    On September 22nd, reports came in to a local radio programme regarding a strange, iridescent sphere in the skies over northern Ohio. This came hours after people reported seeing an object crashing in western Ohio. One caller stated he was on the Turnpike south of Toledo around 1am, when he saw a brightly glowing object fall from the sky and disappear. Shortly thereafter, another caller reported hearing military jets being scrambled from an AFB north of Detroit. Another caller reports a similar object falling in another part of the state.

    Later that morning, a FEMA convoy was spotted on the Turnpike, heading east from Toledo. Also reported was a large number of military trucks coming from all points and heading west.

    Another caller from Fostoria, Ohio (which is near Toledo) stated that "a ton" of Army vehicles had blocked Route 12 and was directing people to turn around and take a different route.

    The same morning, a local news programme aired teasers for a breaking story regarding these objects. The story mysteriously never aired.

    The skies over Ohio were filled with contrails... I mean FILLED. A large number of military craft were spotted canvassing the skies. I had no idea this was going on but I did see the contrails.

    All of northern Ohio was on "high alert" that week but the citizens were not made aware of this until just recently.

    Attatched are pictures of the jets, the contrails and the orb.
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    More photos and some soundbites...

    Here are some photos of the object seen on the 26th...

    Mary calling in about the Army trucks...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...%20I%20480.mp3

    Amin calls about the falling object...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...0by%20Amin.mp3

    Kevin calls about a similar object falling in another location...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...0in%20Stow.mp3

    Kevin from Detroit calls in about fighter jet scramble...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...%20Detroit.mp3

    Lyle calls about the FEMA convoy...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...A%20convoy.mp3

    Dave calls about the Army roadbolck...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...20Fostoria.mp3

    Don calls in about his GPS failure...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...0his%20GPS.mp3

    Chris explains GPS failure possibilities...
    http://www.wtam.com/triv/audio/contr...ains%20GPS.mp3
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    Did you see any of this, too, JP?

    Why doesn't this happen in central Ohio...too many police helicopters, not enough UFO's.

    I wonder what the explanation behind it all is, though.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    I saw the contrails, but didn't put a whole lot of thought into it. Now that I am aware of the situation, I will definitely be more attentive to the night sky...

    A friend from another site reported... that these are F-16s and that they fly along with KC-135 tankers and C-130 transports. He did a Google on the Selfridge AFB and the F-16s. It also turned up this...

    Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, head of USAF UFO investigation "Project Blue Book": This account is part of the book by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, "The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects".

    At nine-forty on the evening of the 29th (July 1952) an Air Defense Command radar station in central Michigan started to get plots on a target that was coming straight south across Saginaw Bay on Lake Huron at 625 miles an hour. A quick check of the flight plans on file showed that it was an unidentified target.

    Had the press been aware of some of the other UFO activity in the United States during this period, the Washington sightings might not have been the center of interest. True, they could be classed as good reports but they were not the best that we were getting. In fact, less than six hours after the ladies and gentlemen of the press said "Thank you" to General Samford for his press conference, and before the UFO's could read the newspapers and find out that they were natural phenomena, one of them came down across the Canadian border into Michigan. The incident that occurred that night was one of those that even the most ardent skeptic would have difficulty explaining. I've heard a lot of them try and I've heard them all fail.

    At nine forty on the evening of the twenty-ninth an Air Defense Command radar station in central Michigan started to get plots on a target that was coming straight south across Saginaw Bay on Lake Huron at 625 miles an hour. A quick check of flight plans on file showed that it was an unidentified target.

    Three F-94's were in the area just northeast of the radar station, so the ground controller called one of the F-94's and told the pilot to intercept the unidentified target. The F-94 pilot started climbing out of the practice area on an intercept heading that the ground controller gave him. When the F-94 was at 20,000 feet, the ground controller told the pilot to turn to the right and he would be on the target. The pilot started to bring the F-94 around and at that instant both he and the radar operator in the back seat saw that they were turning toward a large bluish white light, "many times larger than a star." In the next second or two the light "took on a reddish tinge, and slowly began to get smaller, as if it were moving away." Just then the ground controller called and said that he still had both the F-94 and the unidentified target on his scope and that the target had just made a tight 180 degrees turn. The turn was too tight for a jet, and at the speed the target was traveling it would have to be a jet if it were an airplane. Now the target was heading back north. The F-94 pilot gave the engine full power and cut in the afterburner to give chase. The radar operator in the back seat got a good radar lock-on. Later he said, "It was just as solid a lock-on as you get from a B-36." The object was at 4 miles range and the F-94 was closing slowly. For thirty seconds they held the lock-on; then, just as the ground controller was telling the pilot that he was closing in, the light became brighter and the object pulled away to break the lock-on. Without breaking his transmission, the ground controller asked if the radar operator still had the lock-on because on the scope the distance between two blips had almost doubled in one sweep of the antenna. This indicated that the unknown target had almost doubled its speed in a matter of seconds.

    For ten minutes the ground radar followed the chase. At times the unidentified target would slow down and the F-94 would start to close the gap, but always, just as the F-94 was getting within radar range, the target would put on a sudden burst of speed and pull away from the pursuing jet. The speed of the UFO - for by this time all concerned had decided that was what it was - couldn't be measured too accurately because its bursts of speed were of such short duration; but on several occasions the UFO travelled about 4 miles in one ten second sweep of the antenna, or about 1,400 miles an hour.

    The F-94 was getting low on fuel, and the pilot had to break off the chase a minute or two before the UFO got out of range of the ground radar. The last few plots on the UFO weren't too good but it looked as if the target slowed down to 200 to 300 miles an hour as soon as the F-94 turned around.

    What was it? It obviously wasn't a balloon or a meteor. It might have been another airplane except that in 1952 there was nothing flying, except a few experimental airplanes that were far from Michigan, that could so easily outdistance an F-94. Then there was the fact that radar clocked it at 1,400 miles an hour. The F-94 was heading straight for the star Capella, which is low on the horizon and is very brilliant, but what about the radar contacts? Some people said "Weather targets," but the chances of a weather target's making a 180 degrees turn just as an airplane turns into it, giving a radar lock-on, then changing speed to stay just out of range of the airplane's radar, and then slowing down when the airplane leaves is as close to nil as you can get.

    What was it? A lot of people I knew were absolutely convinced this report was the key - the final proof. Even if all of the thousands of other UFO reports could be discarded on a technicality, this one couldn't be. These people believed that this report in itself was proof enough to officially accept the fact that UFO's were interplanetary spaceships. And when some people refused to believe even this report, the frustration was actually pitiful to see.

    The following account is part of a statement submitted by James E. McDonald, Senior Physicist, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, and professor, Department of Meteorology, The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona, to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics at July 29, 1968, Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects, Rayburn Bldg., Washington, D.C. Full text here.

    Professor James E. McDonald, world expert on atmospherics physics and UFO researcher:

    5. Case 39. Port Huron, Mich., July 29, 1952:
    Many of the radar cases for which sighting details are accessible date back to 1953 and preceding years. After 1953, official policies were changed, and it is not easy to secure good information on subsequent cases in most instances. A radar case in which both ground-radar and airborne radar contact were involved occurred at about 9:40 p.m. CST on 7/29/52 (Refs. 4, 5, 7, 10, 25). From the official case summary (Ref. 7) one finds that the unknown was first detected by GCI radar at an Aircraft Control and Warning station in Michigan, and one of three F-94s doing intercept exercises nearby was vectored over towards it. It was initially coming in out of the north (Ref. 5, 25), at a speed put at over 600 mph. As the F-94 was observed on the GCI scope to approach the unknown, the latter suddenly executed a 180 degree turn, and headed back north. The F-94 was by then up to 21,000 ft, and the pilot spotted a brilliant multicolored light just as his radarman got a contact. The F-94 followed on a pursuit course for 20 minutes (Ref. 7) but could never close with the unknown as it continued on its northbound course. At the time of first radar lock on, the F-94 was 20 miles west of Pt. Huron, Mich. The GCI scope revealed the unknown to be changing speed erratically, and at one stage it was evidently moving at a speed of over 1400 mph, according to Menzel (Ref. 25), who evidently drew his information from the official files. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) states that when the jet began to run low on fuel and turned back to its base, GCI observed the unknown blip slow down, and shortly after it was lost from the GCI scope.

    Discussion:
    This case is still carried as an official Unknown. The case summary (Ref. 7) speculates briefly on whether it could have been

    "a series of coincident weather phenomena affecting the radar equipment and sightings of Capella, but this is stretching probabilities too far."
    Menzel, however, asserts that the pilot did see Capella, and that the air borne and ground radar returns

    "Were merely phantom returns caused by weather conditions."
    No suggestion is offered as to how any given meteorological condition could jointly throw off radar at the ground and radar at 21,000 feet, no suggestion is offered to account for 180 degree course-reversal exhibited by the blip on the GCI scope just as the F-94 came near the unknown, no suggestion of how propagation anomalies could yield the impression of a blip moving systematically northward for 20 minutes (a distance of almost 100 miles, judging from reported F-94 speeds), with the F-94 return following along behind it. With such ad hoc explanations, one could explain away almost any kind of sighting, regardless of its content. I have examined the radiosonde sounding for stations near the site and time of this incident, and see nothing in them that would support Menzel's interpretations. I have queried experienced military pilots and radar personnel, and none have heard of anything like "ground returns" from atmospheric conditions with aircraft radar operated in the middle troposphere. If Menzel is not considering ground-returns, in the several cases of this type which he explains away with a few remarks about "phantom radar returns", then it is not clear what else he might be thinking of. One does have to have some solid target to get a radar return resembling that of an aircraft. Refractive anomalies of the "angel" type have very low radar cross-section and would not mislead experienced operators into confusing them with aircraft echoes.

    6. Many other cases might be cited where UFOs have appeared on radar under conditions where no acceptable conventional explanation exists. Ref. 7 has a number of them. Hall (Ref. 10) has about 60 instances in which both radar and visual sightings were involved. A December 19, 1964 case at Patuxent River NAS is one that I have checked on. It involved three successive passes of an unknown moving at speeds estimated at about 7000 mph. It is an interesting case, one that came to light for somewhat curious reasons. A low overcast precluded any visual sightings from control tower personnel, so this is not a radar-visual case. I found no conventional explanation to account for it.

    It has to be stressed that there are many ways in which false returns can be seen on radarscopes, resulting not only from ducting of ground returns but also from interference from other nearby radars, from internal electronic signals within the radar set, from angels and insects (weak returns), etc. Hence each case has to be examined independently. After studying a number of official evaluations of radar UFO cases, I get the impression that there would probably be more radar Unknowns if there were less tendency to quickly explain them away by qualitative arguments that overlook pertinent quantitative matters. Even at that, there are too many conceded unknowns in official files to be ignored.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    Zoot Horn Rollo writes back: "There was another Selfridge UFO sighting in 1950 as well.

    It may be just a coincidence but Wright-Patterson AFB always seems to be linked to UFO sightings (quite apart from the fact that that was where the USAF UFO 'Blue Book' was compiled) and WPAFB just happens to be in Ohio as well... "


    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    I wrote back to Rollo:

    There was a report back in 1985 that I can corroborate. An object was seen traveling east to west in my area (my mother and I saw it separately and didn't speak of it until it appeared in the paper a few days later). A state patrol officer saw the object as he came off duty and arrived home. He called the sighting into his post, which they verified and called sighting into the local international airport. The airport could not see a UFO on their radar but believe the officers at the post. The airport called the sighting into Wright-Patterson AFB. Wright-Patterson saw the object and it did not carry a marker. They tracked the object until it disappeared off their scopes somewhere over the lake, just east of Cleveland.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    Move along, move along. Nothing to see here, you bunch of lookie-loos.

    I wish you'd put this in the Rancor Pit, because there's a comment I'd not hesitate to make. But not here.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter
    I wish you'd put this in the Rancor Pit, because there's a comment I'd not hesitate to make. But not here.
    Wanna message it to me?
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    This sort of thing interests me greatly and shows me once again that if we think we're alone we're just being selfish. I lived in Saginaw, Michigan ,which is right on Saginaw Bay, for 21 years and I don't recall hearing any of these reports of UFO's although I wish I had. Was it quite spooky seeing a UFO? I would've been totally freaked.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    It was one of those things where you aren't exactly sure what you are seeing, but you know something is amiss. There aren't any of the familiar noises from aircraft (choppers, planes, jets, blimps, etc.) and visually, you just have a tough time describing things like the glow, the lights and so forth because you just don't see things like that everyday. You can't even compare it to something in a film because it hasn't been done the same way.

    It was just odd... that's all I can say. Since a lot of people would think you are just being silly, you don't really say anything about it. Once the story broke, my mom admitted she saw the same thing and we just talked about it for days.
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    Re: What's going on in the skies of Ohio?

    They're here.
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