Sure you did, as evidenced by your very next sentence:Originally Posted by DARKLORD_67
"Prove my point" ? ? ? Hardly, that was hardly my intention. It was a ****ing JOKE to introduce my post, so get over it. Need a ladder ?Originally Posted by DARKLORD_67
Because he flat out says that what he told Luke was "true." KH had a nice post about that up above.I'm even sorrier that the LARGER point that I was making about what "constitues" a "lie" seems to have escaped you totally, despite my captialized emphasis.
What good is referencing Obi-Wan's quote from Return of the Jedi in an effort to show me that he is not a liar?
That's funny that you belittled me earlier by saying I missed your point, yet here you don't see Luke's point at all. Ben wasn't accused of being a liar there, nope. Luke was salty that Ben didn't tell him the whole truth but beyond that he wanted clarification of the answer Yoda gave him that Vader was indeed Luke's father. Enter the Spirit of Ben for a little history lesson.To me, that quote is coming from a defensive, indignant man / ghost who is being accused of being a liar (just as I would have accused him).
I'm not impressed either that you are taking a beloved and kind old man character and indicting him this way, lumping him in with other liars as if he's Bill Clinton or R. Milhouse Nixon.Every liar, if given the chance, will explain how their lie was NOT a lie. I'm not impressed.
She said "they're on Dantooine." meaning "they are on Dantooine." Yes, Tarkin asked where is the hidden rebel base and she didn't say they have a base on Dantooine (which could be occupied or deserted) she said that they are on Dantooine. Lie.I fail to see why you are able to identify Leia's intent to mislead Tarkin as a "Lie", and yet cannot do the same regarding Obi-Wan's statement.
According to the way hairs are split around here, Princess Leia's statement was as much "the truth" as Obi-Wan's statement was about Luke's dad. Tarkin's question to Leia was simply 'Where is the Rebel Base?" He wasn't more specific than that. From Leia's "point of view" her response could very well have been considered "the truth". She responded that the Rebels were on Dantooine... and they were... at one time. But not anymore. And sure enough, Imperial scouts ships discovered the remains of a Rebel base on Dantooine. So at the time Tarkin asked his question, there WAS a rebel base on Dantooine... it was just a deserted one.
Coming from Brooklyn, that must be a pretty damning statement.Give me a break. As far as I'm concerned, all this hair-splitting is purely and simply a smelly load of crap.