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    Live 8

    I can't believe nobody has started a thread about the biggest global event ever!

    What are people's thoughts on Live 8 then? Did it live up to expectation?

    Was it even that big in the States?
    "Giggety giggety!"

    Jek Porky 2008

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    Re: Live 8

    Live 8 was on a couple of different channels over here. It was showing coverage of the various shows. I think it is/was a good idea but I was hearing something along the line of "this is making a difference.... all these people showing up means that they care about this..." My comment would be: How many people are there because they think this is a worthy cause and how many people are there just because it would be a neat concert to be at and the message the promoters are trying to put out is lost on them?

    I watched some and it looked alright, I saw some of the Pink Floyd stuff and that was neat (although Rodger Walters should not be allowed to sing). My 'issue' with Live 8 is are these people (the performers) really behind this or are they just doing it because its the trendy thing to do? Ie. Tibetian Freedom Concerts from a few years ago in the US.

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    Re: Live 8

    I'd rather starve to death than watch Madonna lip synch.

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    Re: Live 8

    Quote Originally Posted by JimJamBonds
    My comment would be: How many people are there because they think this is a worthy cause and how many people are there just because it would be a neat concert to be at and the message the promoters are trying to put out is lost on them?
    I got deja vu when I read this sentence. I could swear I've seen these exact words written in an internet forum before - over at Spawn.com or something. Yet it couldn't have been about Live 8.

    Anyway, I was working while the best of it was on. Then I was down the pub for my friends birthday so I didn't see much of it. It headlined every newspaper yesterday and today. Theres no getting away from Bono of late - first U2 were playing their Irish concerts; then they were in court against one of their stylists; then live 8.

    I'm sure the performers were behind it inasmuch as it was not too great an inconvenience for them - all they had to do was show up and peform 2 or 3 songs for free - if we want to be cynical about it we could say that at least some of them were there to boost their PR and album sales. The impression I get is that Bob Geldof did all the work and those he contacted were hardly going to go 'nah couldn't be ar*ed' or 'actually we're busy recording'. At the same time though it seems so easy to write them off as panderers and self promoters simply because they are 'famous' people whose words and actions are always recorded for all to see and hear. I'm sure some of them are human beings who just happen to be in a position of renown and want to utilise that in some good way. Maybe the wealth these people amass for themselves with houses and lands massive beyond any real necessity makes them feel very obscene as it would the rest of us.

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    Re: Live 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Devo
    I got deja vu when I read this sentence. I could swear I've seen these exact words written in an internet forum before - over at Spawn.com or something. Yet it couldn't have been about Live 8.
    I heard the same thing being asked of one of the promoters. I think its a pretty legit question to ask.

    I can't stand certain people/groups that always seem to pop up at these sorts of things. cough Paul Hewson cough... aka "Bono" . As long as I am up on my soapbox I'll say that it seems Kid Rock has nothing better to do then to show up at every Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
    Last edited by JimJamBonds; 07-04-2005 at 10:50 PM.

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    Re: Live 8

    Im kind of on the same boat with JimJamBonds on this, it seems like a good cause but i wonder how much it actually gets done. Will we actually see some things turn around or will this same thing pop up in future years? To raise awareness is one thing, to actually create change is another. Im sure some of these artists really do care, but im just as sure that others are involved with it because its a "cool" thing to do. I guess the best way to find out is to actually ask them and find out how in depth their knowledge of the whole situation is, if its a general answer than they probably dont give a stuffing.
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    Re: Live 8

    Where else would you get to see a bunch of good bands play? I went to the first Tibetian Freedom show on Randalls island back in the late 90's. 90 bucks for two day ticket. I saw

    Porno For Pyros
    Bjork
    Alanis Morrisette
    Tribe called Quest
    Pearl Jam
    Radiohead
    U2
    Sonic Youth
    Biz Markie
    Beastie Boys
    REM
    Mighty Boss Tones
    Bens Fold Five

    and many others. Great two days and a helluva memory to be there.
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    Re: Live 8

    Does anybody remember Live Aid in 85?

    It just seams that the people not from the UK are being rather synical about it, this is major, I don't think these acts are doing it just for their own big heads at all!
    "Giggety giggety!"

    Jek Porky 2008

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    Re: Live 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar
    I'd rather starve to death than watch Madonna lip synch.
    it might have been better if she had been - then she wouldn't have got into trouble for swearing on bbc tv!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jek Porky 2002
    Does anybody remember Live Aid in 85?

    It just seams that the people not from the UK are being rather synical about it, this is major, I don't think these acts are doing it just for their own big heads at all!
    i remember live aid. but live 8 has a different aim. it isn't about raising money, but raising awareness.

    and that really needs raising as only 9% of americans think that any help should be given to those poor starving children in africa. one dies every 3 seconds. in the length of the uk's live 8 concert that meant 50,000 children died. there were 200,000 people at that concert in hyde park. that's 4 days worth of deaths in african terms.

    as was pointed out if that was happening in YOUR country, SOMETHING WOULD BE DONE ABOUT IT.

    back to the music, most acts i saw were pretty good, u2, rem and the who were very good and pink floyd were just amazing. i never though i would see those 4 musicians share a stage together again.

    some odd choices though. not many of the crowd here knew velvet revolver and most people look astonished/sh*t scared by them and good as the kaiser chiefs are they seemed to get the same reaction in the states. those two should have been swapped over.

    snoop dog was pretty funny saying 'what's my motherf*cking name' repeatedly (that went down in a similar fashion to old madge)

    and thanks for sending us ms carey. what a waste of a slot when the killers only got one song. boring doesn't describe her set which completely killed the momentum that had been building. and what a diva.
    come one, come all/chalk your eyes/blood for gall/this isnít the same world/your children are offerings/bow down/give thanks for their scant sufferings/chalk your eyes/the bigger the god so small the man/just this wooden horse remains

    is this what you fought for?/green order/green order

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    Re: Live 8

    Watching both the UK and US footage i was awe struck at the apathy of the US audience. it seemed almost every act was struggling to get anyone to react. For the most part the acts involved in the US concert seemed drab and dull. who the hell was that chick on the piano singing that awful country dirge? and then that guy joined her and looked like he was fiddling with himself stood behind the piano. man only a fiddler has a smile that.
    Sure it's about raising awareness but mostly about getting a group of eight world leaders to listen to their countrymen. will it work, probably not. Is Bob Geldof a total head case? probably. But damn it he tried. He tried and succeeded back in '85 (though back then there was real music and people actually responded it to it) but i agree that the heartfely speeches of some of the acts intercutting the music was a little pathetic. kinda like 'here's me telling you how great and good I am. Now back to the music' And man those artists were so old. and in some cass innappropriately dressed. How tight were Jon Bon Jovi's pants? shockingly tight.
    I missed Madonna but that's not a bad thing. Paul McCartney should be put to sleep he's well past his sell by date. I had no idea who the hell the rap artists were, Destiny's child made me cringe. Black eyed peas were ok sounding but didn't seem to know what to do on a stage that big. The only song from the US concert that i thought had been carefully chosen was sung by Keith Urban, a cover but a nice choice though for the life of me I can't think which song it was now.
    Basically I don't think the concerts will have changed anything. Britain is too stingey to relinquish any debt. America has no intention of doing so either. I think the only thing possible is a lifting on sanctions to certain countries. but lordy even that would be a major move. And we know that no-one is going to start giving away medication to African people with HIV the pharmaceutical companies are way too stingey. So with no wiping the slate clean of third world debt so they can afford to buy medication, and no freebies, nothing will change and somewhere someone will attempt to make out it's a biblical plague and a natural cleansing of the planet. *sigh*

    It should be pointed out that after LiveAID in '85 a lot was done to help the Ethiopians, food, tools, the building of wells so they could have clean water, medical aid etc. the place is now a recoving country. but what's being asked now is that so many countries are helped. At this present time neither the states nor the UK can afford to lift the debts. if they do it means a raise in taxes and the cost of living for certain.
    I applaud the organisers of the concerts and their deication to the cause but at the end of the day i don't think they managed to engage the apathetic western world enough. it takes a hell of a lot more than a few voices mouthing off to make a change such as they were after.

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