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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by MR. DADDYPANTS
    The modern day part bothers me more than the location. Although the location is also going to need some serious explaining.
    Yeah, the modern day part feels very much like a sore thumb.

    They'd better have Jack's ship i the new show. losing that would be a waste.
    I thought the ship was blown up in his second episode. Still, it'd be a waste to lose that set.

    Though I do think it's a shame there'll be no crossover between Who and Torchwood. I think I'd sooner have had Torchwood be a pre-watershed show that could tie in and crossover. The Torchwood organisation sounds a hell of a lot more exciting than U.N.I.T.
    Yeah, they really should do a little crossover action, makes sense really. "Torchwood" is also an anagram of "Doctor Who", which is why the name was used. Doesn't sound very sci-fi though, reminds me of one of those teen dramas.

    Changing tack - A point I thought of is if the TARDIS is a bit broken as we know it is with the chameleon circuit stuck so the outside always looks like a 1950's police telephone box, and the thing keeps ending up in odd places because the time travel mechanisms are a bit broken and unreliable too, how can the doctor keep finding his way back to the exact same estate Rose lives on? And in the same time era. That's a little incongruous. Yeah I know, I'm nitpicking. But repeated viewing does that to you.
    I think we're supposed to take that the TARDIS is getting them to the right place by psychic means, reading what the Doctor wants and how much he wants it. Or maybe now that there's just the 1 time lord, there's also probably just the 1 TARDIS left and without those other TARDISes flying around space and dimensions, it has less trouble navigating the universe.

    Like Clive from season one episode one, why introduce him as a guy obsessed with the doctor and gatherer of all that data on the doctor only to then have him killed off in the second half of the episode? And if in fact he wasn't killed, because we don't see him after the Auton aims the gun and fires, why has Rose not thought to go back to him for more info about the Doctor? Considering how mysterious the doc's being with her about his past. Clive is the one character besides Rose who really knows anything about the Doctor. Just seems odd to have gone to all the trouble of creating Clive and that whole mass of data in the shed at the bottom of the garden, then deliberately have him there to be killed by the Auton outside the department store. what was all that about? Unless that data Clive collated is going to be used against the Doctor at some future point.
    This is just a guess, but I think Clive was meant not to be a major plotpoint, but to represent the obsessive Dr Who fans, and this new series shrugging off any anchors from them which would otherwise weigh them down. It did seem like an odd thing to dump though, could have used it again and again throughout, maybe even having him bother Rose and her circle, or the Doctor and Rose travel to the 22nd century and find that his legacy has built up into a far more vast conspiracy cult.

    In the old show one of the returning foes was The Master. Who always managed to evade the Doctor when it came to being aprehended. I don't remember now if The Master was ever dealt with finally.
    The Master was dealt with in the TV-movie here in the US aired on Fox back in '96, he was sucked into the Eye of Harmony that was in the TARDIS while trying to steal the Doctor's remaining lives for himself. And thus died Eric Robert's career... er, I mean "The Master".

    Damn, with a little research I look like a real Dr Who fan! I did actually watch the Fox TV movie though back when it aired.
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  2. #52
    I haven't seen it yet. it's something i always mean to get round to but never manage. I had a problem with Paul McGann really. I couldn't watch him in anything or as Doctor Who without seeing his portrayal of John Lennon from a made for TV movie some time ago. Plus i was still pretty much a Who purist at the time. The new look Tardis bothered me.
    Interestingly in all the Who documentaries I've watched again recently McGann's doctor only gets the briefest mentions and he's never interviewed. So I can only summise that he wasn't too happy with the end results or the lack of success of the movie. Or, the powers that be weren't impressed with his work.
    It's weird but i don't even consider that TV movie to really be a Who adventure. In the same way i don't consider peter Cushing's movie appearances as Who to be real Who. Even though i think Cushing made a better doctor than William Hartnell's original characterisation. way back in the mists of non colour tv............

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by MR. DADDYPANTS
    I haven't seen it yet. it's something i always mean to get round to but never manage. I had a problem with Paul McGann really. I couldn't watch him in anything or as Doctor Who without seeing his portrayal of John Lennon from a made for TV movie some time ago. Plus i was still pretty much a Who purist at the time. The new look Tardis bothered me.
    You should really see it for the curiosity factor, if nothing else. The TARDIS got a very complex set, they spent $1mil on it thinking it'd be a new TV show set they would naturally have to reuse.

    Interestingly in all the Who documentaries I've watched again recently McGann's doctor only gets the briefest mentions and he's never interviewed. So I can only summise that he wasn't too happy with the end results or the lack of success of the movie. Or, the powers that be weren't impressed with his work.
    From what I've read, McGann after the failure of the TV Movie continued to portray the 8th doctor in audio material, including "an extensive series of audio plays" (whatever that means), and still voices the 8th doctor whenever called for.
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  4. #54
    So in other words it killed his tv and movie career

    I'm downloading the movie but it's taking years. want to watch it before I decide if I should buy a DVD of it. Coz you bet your sweet tush I'll be getting this new Who on disk.

    oooh point of interest, this weeks episode is a fan one. Peter kay, a british character actor, plays a role after begging the producers to let him be in the show. And his costume was designed by a young fan after winning a competition to design one. However, the doctor and rose don't appear in the episode much and apparently this episode has a really odd script. more discussage when I've seen the episode for myself this saturday...

    A big spoiler:
    Rose is set to be written out of the show at the end of season two according to a report on the radio earlier this afternoon. Apparently Billie piper has had enough and wants to move on. but the storyline has also been moving towards this anyway. something big seems to building up to the season finale 2 parter.... All russell T. Davies has said is that something has to come along and happen to spoil the party. That there's a sense that Rose and the doctor are having too much fun and things are going to get rough....

  5. #55
    So do we know if or when the new season is supposed to begin airing in the US?
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  6. #56
    Fan ep, fan clothes? You know the current Doctor is played by an actor whose childhood ambition of playing the Doctor led him to acting, that's a FAN job!

    Bah! That spoiler news makes me unhappy, too many characters taking off this series at the end of seasons.
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  7. #57
    I never know whether to believe actors when they say they dreamed about playing a part. is it genuine or just spin to protect their job?

    And I didn't say fan designed clothes, I said fan designed costume

    I have to admit that I'd love to be in the show myself. even in a rubber monster suit. I've been an admirer of Ailsa Berk the series choreographer for years. She used to do a lot of costume stuff herself and was the person inside the costume for Amanaman in ROTJ, not her best work admittedly She did work for Henson's Storyteller show too. But yeah, be cool to do some mime/physical acting on Who. I've always found that sort of stuff much more fun and rewarding than all the line learning and stuff.

    Meh. Dreams eh.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by MR. DADDYPANTS
    I never know whether to believe actors when they say they dreamed about playing a part. is it genuine or just spin to protect their job?
    Well, this was said about him before 2005 when the new series began, so I tend to believe it.

    And I didn't say fan designed clothes, I said fan designed costume
    Tomayto-tomahto, to me...toh. Alien costume is still actor clothes.

    Somehow, I've never wanted to be on any show or movie I like in any capacity, it just never occurred to me that it'd be interesting to make these shows.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  9. #59
    I'd never be able to watch myself. ha, sounds weird, but i can't stand to see moving images of myself. I'd like to be involved, see howit's all done and be in the thick of it. just to satisfy my curiosity. I'd pick Dr Who because if I sucked at being a rubber suit monster I could pass it off as harkening back to the former glory days of the show.

  10. #60
    Sci-Fi Channel got decent enough ratings with the new Doctor Who series one that they'll probably acquire series two. Unless BBC America acts like total gits again, like they did when negotiating for series one. That's why, back in Summer 2005, it was announced SFC wouldn't be carrying the new Doctor Who. When Beeb America couldn't get anyone else to plunk down the absurd amount they wanted for it, they went back to SFC for a second round of negotiating. After settling on a price, then Beeb hits SFC with, "Oh, by the way, it's coming out on DVD in February '06." SFC replied, "Oh, really? Then in that case, the deal's off!" Suddenly, the DVD release got pushed back to July 4, 2006.
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