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    Starship Troopers 1 & 2

    Star Wars' Phil Tippet was heavily involved in both pictures, though he served as the Director of the sequel, a made for cable movie that then went out on DVD.

    The first movie was slap-stick and epic at the same time.

    The soundtrack promoted "a struggle for all time," but some of the cornball lines ("He sucked his brains out!") point to the film not taking itself seriously.

    Leading ladies Denise Richards and (topless) Dina Meyer added great eye candy to the already rich first film. The starship effects and the bugs were very well done.

    The movie is very bloody and supplants any of the Aliens films for being the most grotesque.

    Starship Troopers takes you from bootcamp to alien battle fields.

    On a serious level, the bugs are distraught by human incursion into their realm as earth tries to colonize out in space. It would seem we invaded their territory. But the idea that these "animals" can hurl asteroids across the galaxy and into the earth is beyond far-fetched (though it is supposed to be).

    I have paused to consider how really extraordinary the movie could have been had it taken a hardcore, very serious approach with a more intellectual drama underlying it. Instead, it is campy like Romancing the Stone played itself out, capitalizing on the Indiana Jones movies.

    But actually, the second movie does get more hardcore and dramatic. Then as a result, the two films don't really seem to go well with each other.

    More on movie 2 as I rewatch it.
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    I really didn't care for this movie, I saw it in the theater, the satire was watered down from Verhoven's previous Robocop and the action was a little too overproduced. I also didn't think the cast worked together, the acting was flat and the people too pretty all the time (I know that was a point to it, but the satire being so flat...)
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    I'm really not very familiar with the Robocop films. They didn't interest me too much. So I didn't know they were satirical, or tongue-in-cheek.
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    Robocop has a lot of biting societal satire strewn throughout the action.
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    I wasn't aware that Paul Verhoven was involved in witty commentary movies. Basic Instinct was intelligent enough for what it was, but I'm not sure I know what to make of Verhoven next to guys like Raimi, Singer, Cammeron, the old Speilberg, the old Lucas, etc.
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    Verhoven did Robocop, Total Recall, those both have biting social satire, then he does Basic Instinct which is changing gears in a big way. Then he goes back to something a little sillier with Showgirls but it's so sloppy and campy and flatly-written, then Starship Troopers.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    Oh. Well we both know we like Total Recall. I thought Verhoven's name came up in a recent movie I reviewed.

    I'm not sure Vehoven has ever hit the "epic" level of the genre that some of the other directors I named have, but Robocop (though I haven't been interested in it really) does seem to have embedded itself in pop-culture consciousness, as has Basic Instinct (though mostly for Sharon Stone's "Paris Hilton antics.")
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    Robocop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct did serious box office and resonated past their times (I'm still surprised how often I hear "I'll buy THAT for a dollar!" - it's from Robocop). Showgirls left a different kind of impression on society, one of being overblown smutty dreck, and thus begat the law of diminishing returns with Paul Verhoven's material.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    Starship Troopers I enjoy to watch every now and then, granted it's not one of the best films of all time and the cast do get on one's nerves, Dina Meyer's scenes are definites not to miss and I love the weapons and ships. The space scenes with the fleet and ships launching are a huge highlight of the movie, I just wish we had seen more of the fighters/bombers. Which oddly despite their brief bombing run got a really cool looking figure scale toy made.

    Starship Troopers 2...well it was about as good as a bug infestation.

    The story was so horribly predictable that a Priest and a Rabbi walking into a bar could even accuse it of being cliche. Props and sets were pretty shoddy looking, even the weapons looked horrible. I couldn't stop staring at this wire mesh that was around the barrel of the gun looking like the poorest attempt at a futuristic flashhider.

    The only thing that really made this connected to Starship Troopers was the armor, bugs and mentioning terms and whatnot. Granted, more nudity than the first one but it was too easy to tell it was to gain your attention away from the film. Maybe they didn't even have a complete script and just scribbled that in the gaps?

    If you want to see more of the Starship Trooper universe without wanting to cringe every 5 seconds, check out the CGI animated series DVD set if possible. That was a really good show, although not in continuity with either movies it was definitely more fun. Much like MIB, Starship Troopers 2 tried to copy some things of the show but failed miserably.
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    I didn't like part 2 at all, they had decent guns in the first now they have rifles with strobes on the end what a joke. Basil Poledouris who was the composer on Robocop did the first movie too. James Horner who did The earlier ST movies did movies like Krull.

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