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  1. #2071
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Metalmute View Post
    The Death Star was pretty far along for it to be before Obi-Wan dropped off Luke. That's why I always figured that was a "timeless" scene. I never thought the ending was in chronological order, it was just a rap up of where everyone ends up leading into the next film.
    That was one thing I really didn't like about the ending of ROTS. Based on the timeline established in the original trilogy, construction on the Death Star shouldn't have started until a few years before ANH. Maybe the one seen at the end of ROTS was a prototype?

  2. #2072
    So has the show become a series of 3 episode arcs or what? This is the third one in a row, although who knows where they end up in the actual time line. I like the idea but it seems be overdone imho.

  3. #2073
    Quote Originally Posted by JimJamBonds View Post
    So has the show become a series of 3 episode arcs or what? This is the third one in a row, although who knows where they end up in the actual time line. I like the idea but it seems be overdone imho.
    There have indeed been quite a few lately, but it's not like there weren't any in the first two seasons, or any two-parters earlier. Technically, given the way that so many Season One episodes were fleshed out by Season Three episodes, the only standalone episodes that hasve no direct ties to other episodes at this point are Lightsaber Lost and Bounty Hunters (though you could say the latter has to do with the effects of one of the Felucia battles, but only tangentially). Let's take a look at the arcs, shall we?

    *Christophsis - two and the movie
    *Malevolence - three
    *Rookies - three
    *R3-S6 - two
    *hunt for Nute Gunray's - three
    *Dooku captured - two
    *Maridun - two
    *Pantora - two
    *Blue Shadow Virus - two
    *Ryloth - five (including Ambush, given the events of Supply Lines connecting them)
    *holocron - three
    *Geonosis - five
    *hunt for Grievous - two
    *Lightsaber Lost - one
    *Mandalore's Death Watch - three
    *Bounty Hunters - one
    *Zillo beast - two
    *Boba Fett - three
    *Mandalore's corruption - two
    *Ziro the Hutt - four
    *military spending bill - three
    *Nightsisters - three
    *Mortis - three

    So that's 21 arcs so far, plus two standalone episodes. Yowza!

    Another thing - the episode guide says that the fact that the Father was the only one to disappear upon his death was intentional. I wonder if he and Qui-Gon had a little chit-chat.
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  4. #2074
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    I really enjoyed the conclusion to this arc. I was glad that they connected the Chosen One prophecy back to the overall galaxy instead of just limiting it to Mortis. Having Rex think they were only gone for a second was great. Also very cool to get more Qui-Gon. Ahsoka's mechanic skills seemed to kind of come out of nowhere, unless I'm forgetting an earlier episode. Perhaps it's just Anakin spending time with her. I thought the visions of Anakin's future and Anakin's brief "turn to the Dark Side" were handled well; having him forget it makes it align with ROTS, but perhaps there's still something in the back of his head that will make him mistrust the Jedi more.

    I guess we don't really know much more than we did at the beginning about the nature of these episodes, but I like that. They've been described as being like the tree cave from ESB, which is probably the best way to describe them.

    Next week has Tarkin, Even Piell, and what looks like a lot of clones. Should be good.
    You sum it up quite well, sir...

    I gotta agree....as much as I was NOT enjoying the first two episodes of this arc...this last one did kind of reel it it in and tie it up in a good way. It made it easier for me to accept this whole story arc as something that "happened but didn't happen" as far as what the movies present. And yes, I like what JabbaJohn said about the possible coda of this whole arc is that while Anakin doesn't remember seeing his future, the whole incident may have left a residue of doubt towards the Jedi. Not bad, not bad at all...

    And now...back to the clones! Yes!

  5. #2075
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    Another thing - the episode guide says that the fact that the Father was the only one to disappear upon his death was intentional. I wonder if he and Qui-Gon had a little chit-chat.
    I was under the impression that the Father manifested himself as Qui-Gon in order to "trick" Anakin to search out the son so the father could see the future of the chosen one for himself. When the father knew what the future held for Anakin, he didn't seem disappointed or worried, only that he knew that the path Anaking would take would bring balance to the force.

    The thing that had me curious was that the Father knows the future, but still warned Anakin to be mindful of his heart. I'm not sure if that meant to follow his heart because he had to become Darth Vader, or for Anakin to be wary of what his heart wants out of him to avoid becoming Vader.
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  6. #2076
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Metalmute View Post
    The thing that had me curious was that the Father knows the future, but still warned Anakin to be mindful of his heart. I'm not sure if that meant to follow his heart because he had to become Darth Vader, or for Anakin to be wary of what his heart wants out of him to avoid becoming Vader.
    ...and that one moment redeemed this whole arc for me because it poses that question. Very cool. And it gave me the impression that these three (father, son, daughter) weren't necessarily the be-all and end-all of the force, but just beings that were very adept at it and living through it....another "different" religion following the same "force" if you will(as the Jedi and the Sith have). Great food for thought looking at it that way....

  7. #2077
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    There have indeed been quite a few lately, but it's not like there weren't any in the first two seasons, or any two-parters earlier. Technically, given the way that so many Season One episodes were fleshed out by Season Three episodes, the only standalone episodes that hasve no direct ties to other episodes at this point are Lightsaber Lost and Bounty Hunters (though you could say the latter has to do with the effects of one of the Felucia battles, but only tangentially). Let's take a look at the arcs, shall we?

    So that's 21 arcs so far, plus two standalone episodes. Yowza!
    Wow, to be honest this is the first season that I've made an effort to watch every episode aka I'm dvring them. In the past I'd watch if I stumbled upon it but I made no effort to find the show.

  8. #2078
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Metalmute View Post
    Did the son spend the entire second episode of this arc trying to kill the father knowing that the father was the key to all of his power?
    That is an excellent point, it was clear in this ep that he DID know what would happen, so it's a contradiction.


    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus282 View Post
    That was one thing I really didn't like about the ending of ROTS. Based on the timeline established in the original trilogy, construction on the Death Star shouldn't have started until a few years before ANH. Maybe the one seen at the end of ROTS was a prototype?
    This is a point of contention that is entirely unclear, Tarkin's appearance at the end of ROTS jumbles a bunch of stuff up, apparently, and doesn't feel right to have the Death Star building 18 years prior to ANH while Tarkin's career is still rising (and is supposed to be tied to the Death Star's development).
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  9. #2079
    So the balance of the Force episode was just some sort of dream the Jedi all had? Or a vision at the very least?

    I kind of felt the whole thing was a waste. Ashley Eckstein asked on her Facebook page what people thought of it. While Ahsoka basically didn't do much anyway, I felt it was probably best not to answer her question.

    At least there aren't Sith warriors who wear clothes, and can turn into naked bat-things in "real life." At least in my interpretation of it (the shuttle never landed on a real planet period).

    I don't know who was influencing their vision - and if only Anakin had it, or they all shared it "in the Force or something."

    Seems like maybe the latter, since why would Anakin dream what Obi-Wan was doing when he wasn't physically there (when Obi-Wan spoke to the Father)?

    Anyway, this is exactly why I like the Senate politics episodes better. And I'm NOT being sarcastic.
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  10. #2080
    More awesomeness. Peter Mayhew as Chewbacca will be appearing in two episodes of the Clone Wars!

    He'll be in the One Hour Season Finale that airs on April 1st. There's a clip over at the NY Times....

    http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...wars/?src=tptw
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