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    Obi Wan to Luke: "I won't be able to help you..."

    How come? I think he could have.... was this just a threat to try and keep Luke on Dagobah, or was Obi Wan concerned Vader would sense his presence as part of the force if he helped Luke?

    Or was it something else? Anyone?

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    Obi-Wan was an *sshole.
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    In the spirit form, Obi really can't be much help. He can't do much beyond utter Chinese Fortune Cookie phrases to provide inspiration.

    Beyond just not being able to help, it is a "spiritual" journey message as well. Luke is going to face his demons head on and it's his journey to take...alone. This is why him leaving at that critical time in his education held such disastrous potential. He had the "power" to manipulate the Force, but he lacked the emotional tools to handle the psychological attack that Obi knew Vader would throw at the boy. It's the same as putting an AK47 in the hands of a child and saying "shoot that." The kid will, either willingly because it's fun or because the kid is under duress and will do whatever the adult says.

    It is only after Luke goes through that trial by fire that he makes the emotional leap that enables him to once again enter the dragon's lair at the end of the ROTJ and succeed. Spirit Ben wouldn't have helped Luke on Bespin had he been there. He would have crippled him for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketboy View Post
    Obi-Wan was an *sshole.
    And probably rip roaring drunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketboy View Post
    And probably rip roaring drunk.
    Ghosts drink spirits.

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    He had a hot date with the Ghost of Padme.
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    It's another one of many plot contrivances that plague this saga from Episode I thru VI.

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    Luke made a decision that went against the wisdom of the Force, Obi-Wan couldn't give him more advice and help that would have Luke following that path.
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    he couldn't help him because he still hadn't figured out how to pick stuff up to throw at vader. he's a ghost after all.
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    Luke had shown great promise, but he followed "Old Ben's" instructions. Then, when he proved to be reckless and headstrong, Ben realized his mentoring wouldn't work anymore. It wasn't that he couldn't help him, it's that Luke wouldn't listen.
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