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    Force Lightning and the Makeover

    In ROTS, Palps takes a rebound hit of his own Force Lightning and within seconds, his face becomes deformed to a point where only his money and power will be his only tools to get some tail.

    But in ROTJ, Luke takes several minutes of direct Force Lightning and comes out of it with nary a scratch.

    What gives? Were improvements made to Force Lightning in the years between ROTS and ROTJ?

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    Yet another inconsistency between the trilogies

    Although in fairness I think what happened in ROTS would be the more likely outcome of sustained force lightning to the face. But they couldn't mess with Mark Hamills face again...people were confused enough at his difference of appearance between ANH and ESB!

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    'Cause Luke has more true midichorions. The Emperor is powerful, but he's been buying secondhand midichlorions at the Salvation Army.
    Tommy, close your eyes.

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    Mark Hamill was already more fugly than Emperor Wrinklatine so the force-lightning didn't have any detrimental effect.

    But really, it's not an inconsistency between the trilogies, because Mace didn't get disfigured either.

    Then again, there is an upcoming EU Retcon which explains how a Force-lightning disfigured Mace Windu fell safely into a passing speeder while falling out of Palps' window...he later took work on Jabba's skiff under the alias Weequay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar View Post
    Mark Hamill was already more fugly than Emperor Wrinklatine so the force-lightning didn't have any detrimental effect.

    But really, it's not an inconsistency between the trilogies, because Mace didn't get disfigured either.

    Then again, there is an upcoming EU Retcon which explains how a Force-lightning disfigured Mace Windu fell safely into a passing speeder while falling out of Palps' window...he later took work on Jabba's skiff under the alias Weequay.
    Was he in that infamous Boba Fett wedding too?

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    There's no inconsistency. Palpatine's face was disfigured by close-proximaty full power force-lightning rebounding off of Mace's lightsaber. It directly struck his face, causing the damage to Palpy's features. Where as in the case of Luke, it flowed all over his body. And as you can see by Palpy's dialogue (and the effects), was meant to torture not immediatly kill. "Now young Skywalker, you will die." And wasn't rebounded/directed at any specific area. Though the novels that take place after RotJ do note that Luke's skeleton was effected by the force-lightning.

    Not to mention, further evidence points to the fact that that was Palpatine's true appearance anyway. Given that Palpatine also had yellow bloodshot eyes, rotten teeth, and dirty fingernails after being attacked by Mace. Much like with Vader, his body was aged horribly by the years of drawing on the Dark Side of the Force. And he was concealing his true appearance until it was no longer necessary. And actually served to further his agenda to destroy the Jedi and take over the Republic.
    THE SPY. THE SPACEMAN. THE GODDESS. THE ROBOT. THE GORILLA.

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    In the words of the MST3K theme song:

    "If you wonder how they eat and breathe, and other science facts
    Then say to yourself, 'It's just a show. I should really just relax.'"
    Tommy, close your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    There's no inconsistency. Palpatine's face was disfigured by close-proximaty full power force-lightning rebounding off of Mace's lightsaber. It directly struck his face, causing the damage to Palpy's features. Where as in the case of Luke, it flowed all over his body. And as you can see by Palpy's dialogue (and the effects), was meant to torture not immediatly kill. "Now young Skywalker, you will die." And wasn't rebounded/directed at any specific area.
    Riiiight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Though the novels that take place after RotJ do note that Luke's skeleton was effected by the force-lightning.
    I must've missed that memo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Not to mention, further evidence points to the fact that that was Palpatine's true appearance anyway. Given that Palpatine also had yellow bloodshot eyes, rotten teeth, and dirty fingernails after being attacked by Mace. Much like with Vader, his body was aged horribly by the years of drawing on the Dark Side of the Force. And he was concealing his true appearance until it was no longer necessary. And actually served to further his agenda to destroy the Jedi and take over the Republic.
    What?! Further evidence? We see that Palps in one way then gets hit with lightning then is another way. How on Earth (Coruscant) do you get from what we see to turning Palpatine into some kind of shape shifter?

    Seriously, is there no end to the powers of rationalization? It seems to be a power greater than even the Force itself, for it can explain the Force!

    The FACT is, there is NO evidence that Palpatine ever used the Force until we see him throw some lightning around. He claims to be a Sith, but has used no power. He insinuates that he knows that power to create life (which is the bait he uses to turn Whine-akin) but then immediately recants his claim. And his coup is carried out, not by use of the Force, but by simple political influence. What we actually SEE in the Prequels is a guy who is bent on taking over and manages to trick everyone while using absolutely no Force power at all. He suckers magicians like Maul, Dooku, and Skywalker into doing his dirty work for him while he tinkers with some minor parlor tricks, like undoing handcuffs and throwing lightning.

    What we KNOW is that Palps is a normal looking guy who becomes disfigured after being hit with his own lightning. How that suggests Palps as a shape shifter is a HUGE stretch worthy of the Bush Administration.

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    The Truce at Bakura is the only novel that mentions the skeleton thing, and it only says he runs a risk of his bones being calcified and brittle as a result of being in a high-energy field. Unless he gets it treated, which he, of course, does.

    I didn't think the "melting" was necessary. I can see that he's aging rapidly through the prequels, so him looking like Sophia Petrillo with bad teeth isn't a stretch after another 20 years.
    Tommy, close your eyes.

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    Who said Palpatine is a shapeshifter?

    Nice way of taking pretty much everything that I said out of context. Not that it's a surprise, given you do that with everything. What are you, a Republican?

    I said that there is some evidence in the associated materials that Palpatine was concealing his true visage before he was attacked by Mace. And that afterwards, used his true appearance to garner sympathy and use it against the Jedi.

    And it's absurd in the extreme for you to claim that there was no proof he was a Sith until he started throwing lightning around in RoTS. The guy trained both Maul and Dooku in the Sith arts for cripes sake. Just because he doesn't personally choose to get his hands dirty in most cases, doesn't mean he's not a Sith.
    THE SPY. THE SPACEMAN. THE GODDESS. THE ROBOT. THE GORILLA.

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