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  1. #1
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    Give SW Legacy Comics Another Chance

    Wow! Now that I know these characters, re-reading the 18 issues that are out to date has been awesome. (I've re-covered about the first 10 as I type).

    The story is epic, complicated, and compelling.

    I had difficulty getting into it when it first started, but now I'm excitedly anticipating action figures and it has all become well-tied-together for me.

    I strongly recommend re-reading.

    This can be a spoilers-allowed discussion thread, but I won't start with the spoilers personally. Bring it on if you guys want them, though.

    This will be pretty good.
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    Not trying to be difficult, but why? I read two or three issues, couldn't get into it, and found it to be a slap in the face of the Saga and existing EU. Why spend $3 (or more, if the price went up since I stopped paying attention) for a comic that I'm not interested in?
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    I think it took me (in my re-read) about the first 6 issues to really get into it.

    Part of that is from hindsight appreciation for the characters now, knowing where some of the story arc went up to the current point.

    I'd like to learn even more about Darth Krayt's motivations and philosophy, but there's been significant insight into his character finally.

    Also, Legacy (comics) introduces a whole pantheon of new characters, like they force-fed us all the Prequel and Sequel cast all at once and then got the story rolling. It was hard to see where everyone fit in at first, but that was part of the dramatic reveal. Now we have:

    The Sith:

    Darth Krayyt (from the prequel era past, still alive)
    Darth Wrylock (one of Mas Ameda's species)
    Darth Talon (a Twi'lek chick)
    Darth Nihl (some kind of human-like male)
    Darth Maladi (a Devaronian female - head of Sith Intell)

    The True-Imperials

    Emperor Roan Fel (likely Jaina Solo's great-grandson) - Force trained
    Princess Marisiah Fel (Jaina and Jagged's great-great grand-daughter. Cade's 4th Cousin)
    Antarres Draco - Imperial Jedi Knight (Royal Guard w. lightsaber, Force-trained)
    Ganner Krieg - Imperial Knight, Draco's best friend

    The Moffs (allied to the Sith so they can seize power)

    Nyna Callixte - the ex-wife of another Moff, she's now into Moorlish Veed so she can be the power behind the power if he becomes Emperor

    Moorlish Veed - the Grand Moff, was to be Emperor, but Krayyt didn't allow it

    various other Moffs, heading the Navy and Army, etc.

    The Gallactic Alliance (defeated by the joining of the Sith with the Empire)

    The Jedi

    Wolf Sazem - Kol Skywalker's apprentice and Cade Skywalker's former master, a Zabrack

    Shado Vao - a Twi'lek male, Cade's childhood friend

    K'Kruhk - still alive as Whipids are long-lived. He'd probably be under 200 years old - but Chewbacca was 200, so it's very possible

    The Bounty Hunters

    Cade Skywalker - orphaned Jedi apprentice turned hunter
    Delilah Blue - chick mechanic in love with Cade
    Jeremiah Syn - Cade's bounty hunting / smuggling / gambling buddy

    There's more even. The cast is great. I wrote all of the above from memory (so there are some errors I'm sure) and that is a great testimony to how I've been taken with this series.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter
    found it to be a slap in the face of the Saga and existing EU.
    Well I think I've found an inner-theme in Star Wars being that there is a constant struggle between one's good and bad temptations and they combine their results to make each of our lives their own crazy legacy. If you take some chances, it certainly makes life interesting. That being said, every Skywalker descendant can wreck what their forebarers fought for. In this case, 4 generations did alright, and now it can once again go either way.

    The lineage is:

    Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala

    Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade

    Ben Skywalker and ???

    Ben's SON and ???

    Kol Skywalker and Morghan Corrde

    Cade Skywalker (Luke's great-great-grandson)


    Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala

    Princess Leia and Han Solo

    Jaina Solo and Jagged Fel (the first Emperor Fel)

    Jaina's son (a Fel) and ???

    Roan Fel (the 3rd Emperor Fel) and ???

    Marisiah Fel (not married yet) Luke's great-great grand-daughter


    It is unknown in Legacy comics if Jacen Solo's family somehow continued.
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    My point, though, is that a new, unproven series has to grab the reader from the get-go. Legacy rested on the laurels of Star Wars, so to speak. If you have to re-read the first six issues after reading the subsequent twelve, that's not speaking well for it captivating you from the beginning.

    Even TPM, for all its flaws and the new ground it was exploring, got the viewers' attention immediately. We're introduced to two characters in the midst of a doublecross already in progress, and find out that one is Obi-Wan Kenobi, whom we're familiar with. The pieces are filled in slowly, starting immediately, as the Jedi try themselves to figure out what's going on. Legacy could've done that, were it written better. As it is, we start with a messy, confusing Jedi battle, and plunge into a more confusing intrigue of some sort involving Sith and a new, peaceful Empire. Without the #0, it makes no sense; even with #0, it's confounding.

    From what I read, it could've started with Cade Skywalker, doing something very pirate-ish, then maybe an internal monologue along the lines of "I wasn't always a pirate. I was raised a Jedi Knight." Then flash back to the last stand of the Jedi, with explanatory notes worked into the monologue, perhaps, "One hundred years earlier, the previous Empire wiped out the Jedi. I wonder if this is how it happened then."

    My main point is that it reads like bad fanfic, and, without some amazing writing, I'm not willing to give another chance to a series that is based on a questionable premise to begin with. I'm not sure why it's written the way it is; previous Star Wars comics (even by the same creators!) have never suffered this flaw as far as I can recall.
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    In some sense, Star Wars was done this way:

    We started with Episode Four.

    Luke's introduced.

    No one knows Leia is his sister.

    No one could even guess that Darth Vader is his father. We're told his father was betrayed and murdered.

    Luke gets pulled into this wide political fight between an Empire and "terrorists" who call themselves a Rebellion.

    We learn they are trying to prevent the use of a doomsday weapon by the Empire, and we are not even sure what their goals would be. ANH through ROTJ make no mention of restoring a Republic.

    Essentially, Legacy re-boots the same theme.
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  6. #6
    Legacy has been pretty damn boring since the beginning.
    But like a retard, I still have it on my pull list.

    There are far too many characters and factions all grabbing for attention, which makes it amazingly confusing and leaves little room for decent characterization. So far there are a 0 and 1/2 issues which attempt to explain things and get people caught up (and those issue only make things more confusing).

    The story has progressed at a snail's pace, with far too many crappy fill-in issues.

    Most of what has been covered could/should have been done in 12 issues.

    The Sith are all lame, especially Darth Krayyt (with that lame-*ss backstory).

    The only thing they have done right - Artoo Detoo, who seems to have been forgotten already.
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  7. #7
    Sorry I just don't think Legacy is that good. I own up to issue no. 12. I still flip through it just to see whats going on. I think the Sith designs are pretty awesome. When they are made into figures I know I'll be getting them.

    I was very tempted to jump back into this comic when Darth Krayt's alter ego was revealed. I thought that was kind of cool. I can't believe I didn't piece it together sooner. With a name like Krayt who else could it have been.

    I do plan on jumping back into all the Star Wars comics because of this super crossover that starts next month.

    I've love Knights of the Old Republic. Its pacing isn't as hurried. Legacy has a cool aesthetic, but is like Matrix in that the design overshadows the storyline. The other series I can't even remember thats how impressed I was with it.

  8. #8
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    With a name like Krayt who else could it have been.
    Someone younger than 150 years old, who wasn't closely connected to Anakin Skywalker. That coincidence is so ridiculous it makes the entire "Vader built C-3PO" shtick fully believable.
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  9. #9
    I absolutely won't be giving Legacy another chance, it lost me at issue 0 and failed completely at issue 1. Issue 1 was really horribly paced considering what it had to do, I didn't like it, so to hear that pacing issue continued only cements my disinterest in this line. You could send me every issue for free and I probably still wouldn't read it because my time is valuable even from a potential standpoint, which means you'd probably have to pay me to read it.
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  10. #10
    Tycho, I've already given Legacy enough chances! I dropped it after #0 and 1. Then bought the Darth Krayt revelation issue just to see what was going on. Then I picked up a few earlier issues for .20 each during my local comic book store's Thanksgiving sale.

    It just has none of the appeal for me that Republic did. I even gave up on Knights of the Old Republic recently because there wasn't enough in the way of payoffs.


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