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    Exclamation Calling all GalooBBies

    *posts trembling*

    In another forum of which I am a member, I was reading a recent thread where a guy was selling a supercool custom display of his Rebel and Imp AF fleet. He'd used the DS base-plates from the AMT/ERTL TIE display to mount his ships and was now asking what people thought about them.

    Near the bottom of the thread a regular member posted the following;
    Hey! Those are my ships! I worked at Galoob in the good ol' days of Action Fleet, and those are my babies. I still have prototypes of them. You would not believe the level of detail the original models have. The Sandcrawler, Slave 1, and the Millennium Falcon almost make your eyes hurt just looking at them. The Micro Machine protos are even more impressive.

    One year we made an AF scale Death Star trench display for Toy Fair. It was awesome!

    It's up to Hasbro, but new Action Fleet ships and two playsets for Episode 2 have been designed and prototyped. For the most part, the ships are taken directly from the ILM CG models. Hasbro is now going to take a "wait and see" approach to size up the appetite for E2 merchandise before they fully commit to the new line. We busted our *** to get the protos ready for Toy Fair only to have them kept in the conference room (along with the other "on the fence" toys) to show only to the larger buyers. Next thing you know, they'll ship 'em off to the Land of the Misfit Freakin' Toys. Hasbro b******s!
    I have emailed the member and asked them (read "begged") to pop in for a visit to answer some questions... I hope the answer is yes

    jeddah
    *ps:- probably best not to mention my comments on the B-wing and Imp Shuttle*
    Last edited by jeddah; 02-16-2002 at 05:03 PM.

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    I can't wait to see Hasbro's reply... oh wait, I have. Every time I write to Hasbro as a customer, I get the same generic replies, sometimes word-for-word.

    I hope Hasbro makes the right choice about AF and I hope they do it soon.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "In Brooklyn, a castle, is where dwell I"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    Its not Hasbro he's written too or heard from!

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    Ah yes, I see that now. I wonder what we'll hear of this.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "In Brooklyn, a castle, is where dwell I"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    more news on this;


    Hi.

    Possibly. Do you have any specific questions? I have a strong bond with
    those that love AF and MM's. One thing, I can't talk about the new AF
    (fingers crossed), I actually should not have even brought it up on the board.

    Thanks.
    So, any questions? Let me know and I'll email them.

    jeddah

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    Hey Jeddah

    What is the other board that you're checking out?

    Cheers

    Britcit

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    sure!

    i have some quextions!

    who developed the concept of issuing the series alpha? the episode I series alpha's are some of the most amazing toys ever made (paerticularly cause they were made full sized, as opposed to the classic sa's where the prototype was x-ray size) these are definately the most original toy concept in the entire star wars toy world!

    also, i always felt that the entire galoob line was detailed far more than any other toy out there, how were the prototypes even more intricately detailed than the released versions?

    were there ever plans to make more of the epic collections. it seemed as though the epic collections were going to cover full trilogies before they were cancelled. if so, were prototypes of other ships from the expanded universe novels ever made?

    were there any prototypes made of other expanded universe ships for the action fleet line? other than the virago, e-wing, and tie defender (such as the outrider, ig 2000, hounds tooth, etc......)
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    jeddah, He may not be "up" on the
    packaging differences but on the off chance he does know, I'd really be interested in knowing the reason for the little battle droid emblem on the bottom of the first edition Episode I MM vehicle and figure collections. Comparisons found here.
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    I have the reply :happy: His replies are bolderised I could've wept blood when I saw the reply regarding Outrider...

    who developed the concept of issuing the series alpha? the episode I series
    alpha's are some of the most amazing toys ever made (paerticularly cause
    they were made full sized, as opposed to the classic sa's where the
    prototype was x-ray size) these are definately the most original toy
    concept
    in the entire star wars toy world!

    Actually, I don't recall that decision, but I'm pretty sure it was Jim. He
    was REALLY into the artwork behind the designs. Like myself, he has an
    industrial design background. The art aspect was DEFINITELY Jim's strength.
    He also forged a relationship with original trilogy designer Ralph
    McQuarrie. We were even able to watch Episide 1 with Ralph about a week
    before it opened in theaters.

    I too liked the fact that the E1 Alphas were created in full size.
    Actually, the proto original trilogy Alpha ships were created in the same
    scale as the other AF ships. As a cost cutting measure, they were scaled
    down. A friend of mine still has the complete set of AF scale protos
    (Imperial Shuttle, X-Wing, AT-AT, Snowspeeder, B-Wing, Y-wing, and the Cloud
    Car). They are very nice, with very neat paint jobs. He is REALLY into the
    Alpha stuff, so he will be thanking me for those until the end of time.

    A note on E1 Alphas... What is now being touted as the unproduced
    "Sebulba's Pod" Alpha was actually going to include a smaller representation
    of Neeva Kee's Pod - not Sebulba's. I believe it was going to be sold
    simply as a "Pod Racer" rather than Sebulba's Pod.



    also, i always felt that the entire galoob line was detailed far more than
    any other toy out there, how were the prototypes even more intricately
    detailed than the released versions?

    Great question! Damn, the protos are WORKS OF ART! They are all modeled,
    painted and constructed by hand, and EVERY detail is sharp. They were
    produced at the old Galoob manufacturing facility overseas known then as
    "Galco." It was a VERY tight shop. While I have never been there, I am
    told that there are areas that even guest from our facility were not allowed
    to enter. I other words, they kept their prototyping process a secret.
    It has been suggested by someone "in the know," that the original sculpts
    and models for the AF and MM ships and figures were carved out of ivory.
    That would not go over very well if it got out.

    Anyway, details are SO sharp, they blow your mind. The MM ships....I can't
    even describe them! Unfortunatelly, the softer plastics used on the
    production pieces have a difficult time capturing the details. They also
    include features that were not incorperated into the production toys.

    The figures in particular are beyond belief. The proto AF figure of Han
    Solo actually looks like Harrison Ford! The production piece, on the other
    hand, looks like a flesh colored glob of paint with some brown paint added
    for hair. I think it all comes down to the detail definition.

    One more note... I have also noticed that almost none of the small details
    on the protos match up to the production toys, and almost all of the AF
    figures are completely different. It is almost as if they made all new
    models and sculpts for the production process. Very weird.




    were there ever plans to make more of the epic collections. it seemed as
    though the epic collections were going to cover full trilogies before they
    were cancelled. if so, were prototypes of other ships from the expanded
    universe novels ever made?

    I really can't help you out with this one all that much. Micros really did
    not involve too much design. We would simply give Galco a picture of the
    ship and/or the character and they would go from there. One fun aspect of
    the micro figures is that we would send them various photographs of Galoob
    employees in various poses to serve as a reference for the pose that we
    wanted the figure to come in. I guess there's a little bit of us in those
    tiny figures.

    There were concepts drawn up for E1 "Epic type" toys. They were to be
    shaped like books, and when you opened the book, it would reveal a
    transforming playset complete with MM ships and figures. They never made it
    past the concept stage.


    were there any prototypes made of other expanded universe ships for the
    action fleet line? other than the virago, e-wing, and tie defender (such as
    the outrider, ig 2000, hounds tooth, etc......)"

    We did draw up an Outrider, but it did not make it past that. Once we
    obtained the Episode 1 license, a number of original trilogy projects were
    shelved. This is why the last wave of Action Fleet is so hard to come by.
    Everyone, including production, was simply gearing up for E1.



    jeddah, He may not be "up" on the
    packaging differences but on the off chance he does know, I'd really be
    interested in knowing the reason for the little battle droid emblem on the
    bottom of the first edition Episode I MM vehicle and figure collections.
    Comparisons found here;
    http://www.twinsuntimes.com/toyforce/mmvehiclecoll.htm


    Yep, you're right. The packaging and the design were two different
    departments - sorry. What I did love were the various foreign exclusive
    packaging variations. The one that really stands out is the "blister box"
    for the transforming head playets. Now those were slick!


    He's also asked for the WWW of the forum so hopefully he'll drop in.

    If you're reading this Mr Glitch, THANK YOU



    jeddah

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