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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Exhaust Port View Post
    I've wondered what created the popularity of the B-17 in the decades to follow the war. Was it due to the PR campaign with the Memphis Belle crew that launched the B-17 into popular culture? There definately is a lack of love for the B-24.
    I've heard interviews with WWII pilots on the likes of Discovery and Military channels who claim that the B-17 was easier to fly than the Liberator. That may account for some of its popularity. Also, the B-24 ended up with the nickname the "flying boxcar". How can that name compete with a cool name like "flying fortress"?

    The B-24 was much more versatile in its various roles, too. You'd think that would count for something.
    ¡Que la fuerza te acompañe!

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue2th View Post
    After that it was a turkey shoot.
    Ha! The "The Marianas Turkey Shoot" or Battle of the Philippine Sea thanks to the F6F.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeEye7
    I've heard interviews with WWII pilots on the likes of Discovery and Military channels who claim that the B-17 was easier to fly than the Liberator. That may account for some of its popularity. Also, the B-24 ended up with the nickname the "flying boxcar". How can that name compete with a cool name like "flying fortress"?

    The B-24 was much more versatile in its various roles, too. You'd think that would count for something.
    The senior instructor at my flight school flew The Hump in WW2 as well as being an instructor pilot for the USAAF. His personal point of pride was having flown nearly all the major aircraft of the USA at one point in the US inventory. He always said he had the engines started on a P-38 but had the flight canceled so he never actually flew it.

    Anyway, he echoed what you said about the B-24. It was a tough aircraft to maneuver but it was a solid aircraft. It never achieved any historically negative attributes like the B-26 which wouldn't have hurt it's popularity. It also flew in more theaters in more roles as you mentioned too. I guess the glamour of the aircraft must be the main reason. There are just some airplanes that will always be popular because of their "sexiness" despite others being better, faster, more produced, etc. The P-51 will always be the primier US fighter. Personally I like my fighters a bit thicker and meaner but that's just me.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Exhaust Port View Post
    Personally I like my fighters a bit thicker and meaner but that's just me.
    Are we talking P-47, perhaps? They may not look like much, but they've got it where it counts (where have I heard that before?). It's always been high on my list of favorite fighters. Reasonably good escort, tremendous in its ground attack role. All-time favorite fighter is the P-38, though. Too bad your instructor didn't get a chance to fly it. I saw "White Lightning" at a local air show once. Impressive. Most impressive.
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  4. #24
    Are you talkin' about "Flying Jugs?" they definitely got the girth.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue2th View Post
    Are you talkin' about "Flying Jugs?" they definitely got the girth.
    Is this thread back to being about '40s pin-ups again?

    I wonder if some of the SW ship number designations came from ones like those you've mentioned: T-16 Skyhopper, YT-1300 Freighter, T-47 Snowspeeder, XP-38 Landspeeder, BT-16 Top Gasser .
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue2th View Post
    Are you talkin' about "Flying Jugs?" they definitely got the girth.
    Obviously, not a Thunderbolt, but the jugs are flying, anyway!
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TeeEye7 View Post
    Are we talking P-47, perhaps?
    I like the look of attack aircraft vs. fighters. The P-47 is one of those but my favorite is in the picture.

    The P-38 is a great looking aircraft as well. Something about those twin booms is imposing. It looks great with that nose full of guns as well. The only P-38 I've seen fly is Glacier Girl when it was at the Dayton Airshow back in 2003 during the big Centennial event. The recovery/restoration team was there with a ton of pictures and to talk to fans about their efforts. Amazing work they did.

    Ever since I built my first plastic airplane model by myself I've had an interest in the B-25 as well. For a few years we had the B-25J Barbie III come to our local fly-in which is impressive with it's nose full of guns and its 75mm anti-ship cannon in the nose. Wow. That's a lot of firepower. The B-25H is just as impressive looking too.
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    "No one helped me so why should I help you?" - College professor circa 1999

    By choosing not to decide you still have made a choice.

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  8. #28
    Glacier Girl! WOW, EP!
    I used to subscribe to Smithsonian Air & Space magazine and I've maintained the copy featuring the restoration on her. I've also seen the documentary on Discovery Channel (or whatever channel) on the unbelievable efforts to remove it from the glacier. Very, very cool because they restored it back to its military configuration unlike White Lightning.

    It's funny about the model making: I had a B-25 as well as a Hurricane. With the Hurricane, the kit gave various options and I went with the twin 20mm canon pods under each wing in the tank-buster mode. Mean looking machine!

    Man! I'm still jealous over you seeing Glacier Girl!
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by TeeEye7 View Post
    Obviously, not a Thunderbolt, but the jugs are flying, anyway!
    That's what the pilots who flew the P-47 Thunderbolt affectionately called her, because of the shape looked like a giant milk jug.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=P0K...um=8&ct=result
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  10. #30
    I wish I had digital pictures to share but that was long enough ago that I was still analog.

    For me model building as a kid cemented my interest in what airplanes I liked. No pun intended. Another popular prop fighter I liked was the A-1 Skyraider. That model let you put a ton of bombs on it which is always popular for a young kid.
    "No one helped me so why should I help you?" - College professor circa 1999

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