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    Would You Buy An Imperial Star Destroyer Vehicle?

    I have started a new thread series.

    This will discuss ONLY the vehicle in the title of the thread (in this case the Imperial Star Destroyer from The Empire Strikes Back).

    I will cover several unmade vehicles for the action figures per week, choosing them from a rotating schedule through the movies and the Expanded Universe.

    I'll order it TPM, AOTC, ROTS, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, EU, and then keep going back through the order in that manner.

    So here I'm only asking you if you'd buy the Imperial Star Destroyer from The Empire Strikes Back?

    I envision this vehicle would be the most expensive toy Hasbro ever produces (other than maybe a complete (scaled down) Death Star, with the Star Destroyer costing collectors at least $200 or more. Those of you who buy SideShow or Hot Toys figures, don't balk just yet. PRICE might not be your concern if this could actually happen.

    Size is another matter. Remember the GI Joe U.S.S. Flag aircraft carrier toy made in the 80's? OK, well the Star Destroyer needs to be at least 9 feet or more long. This vehicle will be very similar in design to what LEGO has recently released, and open up for an entirely off-scale play environment.

    Like the vintage Death Star, an elevator should take figures up the neck. At the top of the command tower, will be the bridge, with space for a double-deck so the bounty hunters can assemble and you can put about 3-4 Imperials on either side of the crew pits. Vader can walk the command walk above them up to the front windows.

    Just below that, in the neck, should be Vader's meditation chamber (removeable and replaceable with Grand Admiral Thrawn's meditation chair and holo-displays for an EU option).

    Beneath that, right above the main hull of the ship, should be a conference room modeled after the one Tagge and Motti sat at with Tarkin on the Death Star. (There will be a repeating pattern here of Imperial stuff looking much alike - similar to the Death Star).

    Inside the main hull (forward) should be room for a TIE Bomber to dock. This vehicle is the lowest profile of all the TIEs and would work best, so the Star Destroyer could launch a fighter. Regular TIEs' wings are too tall so forget it.

    A walkway for the pilot to the bomber's cockpit should work. Also, a vehicle maintainance energizer (think back to the vintage accessory sets) should be included.

    Behind the docking bay on one side should be the prisoner brig. There should be a cell block (like Leia's on the Death Star) with one prisoner cell, an escape hatch for play, a command station (like the one Luke and Han took over where they had "a slight weapons malfunction"), and a place for the torture chair (like the one TAC Han Bespin comes with).

    This should lead across the elevator access area and to a trash compactor (like the vintage Death Star set, only not bright orange).

    In front of either of these, there should be probot launching pods. These pods (like the ones in ESB) would carry one probot, but Rebel figures who escape can hijack them and make their get-away if a probot isn't currently aboard.

    Along the side decks (upper walkways going towards the front of the ship) will be gunner stations where Death Star Gunner figures man 3-4 double-barreled turbolasers on either side of the ship. They'll launch missiles (2 each) for 12-16 firing missiles for the kids (and myself) to play with.

    The ship may or may not include electronic sounds and lights. An Emperor's hologram by Vader's meditation chamber / Thrawn's command room might be a great place for this.

    The main market for this toy would be for high-end Star Wars collectors (who also happen to want to dedicate a 9 foot space for this in their house) and who buy a lot of Imperials.

    Do you want this made?

    Would you spend $200-250 for something like this? More?

    Are you seriously capable of it, or just talking?

    Do you already buy SideShow, Medicom, Attikus, or Hot Toys products that approach or exceede this price range. (It was $400 for SideShow's Jabba, throne, and Bubo and Salacious creature packs - now more if you add the alcove with Han Solo in carbonite). If you own these items, are you OK with the price of the Star Destroyer as I'm suggesting?

    How big of problem is having the space to own this ship? Why is it a problem? Is the space-for-it-issue at all because of WHICH SHIP I'm discussing? (In other words, would you buy a different ship from Star Wars that's this size and around this price instead? Which one?)

    What other features would you want on an Imperial Star Destroyer that I have not described?

    How do you think it would sell if produced?

    Do you think Hasbro (or even a different company like SideShow) could make this and start out by taking pre-orders with non-refundable deposits on the ship, say for like $50 to $100? Then either go into production, beyond the prototype, or refund the deposits if the ship needs to be cancelled?

    This vehicle hasn't been seen in Clone Wars, but I'm sure it could be in development during this time and later make appearances on the show as a prototype. Would an appearance on the show help it sell?

    Do you want to see the animated series feature it?
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    The Star Destroyer would only work as a playset. I might buy it in that form. As a $200+ ship, no way, no matter how much I like it.
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    Nope. It just won't be done. Much easier to make a dio that's in the 3-4 foot range for just the bride set up.

    Oh, and you never specified, the Imperator (ISD Mark II) class or Executor Class (SSD)?
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    [FONT=Courier New]YES.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Courier New]I have been wondering lately if someone out there might try to start a company to sublicense the SW brand from Hasbro to build LARGE scale capital ships and vehicles for the 3 3/4" figures.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Courier New]I think it'd be awesome to get a Star Destroyer and if someone could build it in such a way that the base infrastructure is easily modified so that they could re-skin in to become a Venator or Acclamator class cruiser/SD would make it even better because I would definitely want to own all 3. [/FONT]
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    [FONT=Courier New]I would preorder with a deposit of $50-$100.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Courier New]I know there is NO way something like this could ever happen in the immediate future, but it would be a pretty cool toy/playset to own someday.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]"First of all, never bad mouth synergy..."[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
    The Star Destroyer would only work as a playset. I might buy it in that form. As a $200+ ship, no way, no matter how much I like it.
    Why?

    Price?

    Space for it?

    Please discuss...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pbarnard
    Oh, and you never specified, the Imperator (ISD Mark II) class or Executor Class (SSD)?
    The thread says Imperial SD. Is it Imperator Class? I mean ships like The Devastator (ANH) and The Avenger (ESB), or The Chimera (HTTE). Depending upon how this goes, I'll ask about The Executor later.

    I'll eventually discuss prequel trilogy destroyers at some point as well, but the PT still offers many more easily produced and mass-marketed ships that still haven't been done that will keep this thread series much more real.
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    No, same problem as with the Blockade Runner. Too many shortcuts required to make it affordable. If it's done right, then it would require way more money and living space than I would be willing to sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycho View Post
    The thread says Imperial SD. Is it Imperator Class? I mean ships like The Devastator (ANH) and The Avenger (ESB), or The Chimera (HTTE). Depending upon how this goes, I'll ask about The Executor later.

    I'll eventually discuss prequel trilogy destroyers at some point as well, but the PT still offers many more easily produced and mass-marketed ships that still haven't been done that will keep this thread series much more real.
    They're all considered "Imperial" Star Destroyers. Imperator is the Kuat Drive Yard's classification for the model and ship refferred to as ImpStar I's and II's. Imperial is too generic a term for anything of the Empire.
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    Based on the vintage design, I wouldn't want them to do something like that. There isn't a whole lot of action that takes place on the actual ships, aside from dialogue and such. All of the features you described, while interesting and potentially fun, weren't actually seen in the films, and I can't see Hasbro doing an entirely "off-screen" Star Destroyer. I can't really see how the design would translate to a good ship with play/diorama areas.

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    Yes, definitely yes.

    Honestly, making this to any sort of scale is impossible. Any play areas inside it would be ridiculous, as well as TIE fighter storage. Make it about twice as big as the BMF Falcon and have the top open up to include the bridge deck that vader walks down in ESB. Yeah, the play area would not be where it should be, but in my opinion it doesn't matter. Make it like those old transforming Micro Machine playsets.

    Come to think of it, have it so that the entire top flips up when you pull down on the bridge. Collapsable levels pop up and the top level would be the bridge deck, the second level could have the conference room with room for a meditation chamber, and the bottom level could have a hanger with a catwalk that would fit a TIE Fighter.The platfrom Vader walks on in the bridge would house the conference table in vehicle mode. The catwalk level would provide the strength to hold the top decks. The hanger level is all air so it should all be able to fit in ship mode. Something like this: (Be kind, I used mspaint)
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    In theory, I would be all for a suped up Star Destroyer playest, be it either Imperial I/II or Executor.

    But there's a number of things we have to take into consideration between what we'd like in theory and what Hasbro can make in reality.

    1. Obviously the pie-sliced playset from the Vintage line won't work. It didn't really make any sense back then, but back then (1980/1981) we wouldn't see anything bigger until the USS Flagg.

    2. We would need a number of locations: Bridge, Meditation Chamber, Crewpit, docking bay, etc. Production is either going to cut corners or mesh them altogether (as the Kenner ISD did), or make it so large to the point where it comes impractical to make.

    3. Knowing that it's going to be a huge playset, Hasbro will have it in mind to produce only a small amount, and charge an arm and a leg for it. We'd want a number of bonuses: Piett, Daala, Pellaeon figures, MSE droid, exploding shield generator (?) smaller Imperial landing craft, etc.

    I would think that if something like this WERE to be made, it would be sold in modules that the buyer could use as individual playsets, OR put together (a la 1980s MICRO collection) into a larger playset.

    But if it were possible to make something with all the bells and whistles, Hell's yeah I'd get one!

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