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    2010: Hasbro SW Sales Are Strong; After 15 Years Are You Still Collecting?

    Why aren't we still kids? (for the veterans). But if you're a newer, younger forum member, you're welcome to respond to this thread, too - as your enthusiasm for Star Wars will be appreciated for reminding so many of the older forum members here how we used to be - and even could be again.

    So if this does NOT sound like you - tell us anyway!

    If your enthusiasm has mellowed, I thought about some reasons as to why:


    1. Space to put all this stuff - my biggest concern is running out of room.

    1a. Living with others and space limitations (Well, I'm not married, don't want to permanently live with a girl (what's wrong with having lots of girlfriends over the years and no wife?), and I won't have children and risk passing my kidney disease on - plus I don't want kids and prefer peace and quiet, and freedom from responsibility). If you do not use birth control yourself (don't trust a girl to) you may find yourself no longer able to make your own lifestyle choices.

    2. Finances - well, earn more money so you don't have to make choices on what you purchase based on disposable income (if you can avoid this in the current rough economy). You still might be challenged by No. 1 above (space to put the stuff) but if it comes down to alternative choices for entertainment (for example, I love baseball games and rock concerts), getting more cash could give you more options. If this is way too hard to accomplish right now because of being laid off, having pay or hours cut, and similar reasons, might you go back to collecting more when you see your income eventually increase (or bills and debt get all paid off)?

    3. Time - If you must work more to get more cash, this can happen: you won't have time to enjoy the alternatives such as baseball games and rock concerts and the 1/2 hour or hour you spend toy hunting becomes your only, totally arbitrary activity you have time to do, thereby decreasing its pleasure value because you don't have time to make any other choice (but to toy hunt from 8-9am before work, for example). I'd recommend saving for a non-working vacation before toy expenditures. You might not travel anywhere, but instead take time off work and just spend it and the extra money on completely self-entertaining things other than Star Wars. Then when you go back to Star Wars, it will feel as though you haven't missed out on anything else. If you got to take a luxury vacation (and could afford it) would you go back to collecting when you returned?

    4. Completism - I never understood this. I decided I wanted to buy SW stuff to build dioramas - and sort of artistically express myself with the wars I set up. Therefore, I skip figures I have no interest in, or re-carded ones, etc. Though I may have to army-build certain other figures. But because of reason No. 1 above (space to put your stuff), you have to define limitations. That RC Hailfire Droid looks fun, but though I want to play with one, I have no place to keep it, nor any "need" for it. (I have an extra hailfire droid still in its box as it is - the TRU exclusive one that I got for a gift and decided to raid for the General Grievous figure it came with, which I found useful to fight Nahdar Vebb and Kit Fisto when I got them).

    But if you were going to start all over with the vintage-style cardbacks, it's really tough to say if you'll be satisfied. Ephant Mon is probably never going to be carded on a vintage-back and he is still (IMO) probably the greatest SW figure Hasbro has ever produced for the modern collection (2002). Everyone has their own favorite though, and I couldn't tell you if it will ever be on a vintage card or not. (I think Hasbro, well aware of how popular the vintage style cardbacks would be for even prequel figures) saved this idea to drag it out exactly when the economy would be struggling. Financial reports suggest Hasbro is actually profitting and Star Wars sales are very strong right now and even gaining!)

    So how do you feel about the state of Star Wars now, in 2010, and your involvement level with it?
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    My interest is still high but room is probably my main problem right now. I will at some point have to slow down on buying Star Wars and focus money on finishing our basement so I have a place to put all my figures.

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    I wouldn't call what I do collecting any more, I'd call it grazing. I have bought more this year than last but the BAT-AT was just too cool to pass up. I still look forward and get excited over the Toy Fair, SDCC, and SW Celebration pics like I have over the years, but that excitement dies down by the time I see them in the stores. Each year I make a list of must haves. Last year, I only got 6 of the 11, I didn't see the other five until after I didn't care about them anymore. This year, I have 3 of 12 and have already passed on 4 items after I saw them up close.

    I ran out of room in 2005 and started to sell my collection off except those items I really liked. But I stopped collecting when it became too hard to get a hold of everything I wanted. It started to become a second job instead of a hobby, especially when you had to get to a place when they open for a chance at getting the item you want.

    I still visit TRU twice a week, but the lack of new figures is depressing. Entire waves have missed my TRU and I don't expect it to get better. Last week they made a Star Wars store front display, and there were enough Wave 1 Vintage figures (hundreds, seriously) that I believe Waves 2 and 3 will never see the light of day there.
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    I haven't bought a Star Wars action figure since 2007. At first, it was extremely hard, and a part of me still finds this sad. However, circumstances beyond my control have kind of put a lid on buying $7 action figures constantly.

    My main reasons right now are finances. After graduating with my 2 year degree, there were no jobs to be had but really bad retail ones. So I am stuck working a retail, with extremely limited hours. I just got a pay raise and hour hike, but even then one of my brothers had a seizure and was diagnosed with severe epilepsy almost 2.5 years ago. So helping out the family buy medication for him leaves little for "play money" and when I do have extra, its been going to comic books, most of them non-SW related(I just don't like the current story lines).

    I'd say the second reason is space. All but a tiny portion of my collection is locked away in rubbermaids in the basement. Hoping to get the basement finished in a year or so, but even then I'm not sure where I would be able to put them.

    My final reason is I'm just kind of burned out. I'm tired of buying repack of a repack of a repack....or lining more of GLs pockets when there's been some not so smart moves lately.

    I still love Star Wars and the movies, I just think a break to enjoy my other geek fandoms and a chance to become more financially stable is putting a halt on things at the moment.
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    I get really tired of these long, long gaps in between figures. A wave every other month or so would really keep me interested.

    People can argue all day that Saga Legends and the Clone Wars line don't hurt the number of figures from the films that are put out. But between those lines, resculpts, and rereleases I feel like there are very, very few new figures of new characters from the films in a given year and that makes me less interested in the line.

    I still buy figures I want, and always will. But I have cut way back.

    I will be patient, and in this line that pays off. But, I find it baffling there were no cantina figures this year. I find it hard to believe that characters like Kitster, Wald, Cliegg Lars, Bom Vimdin, the Ranat, Sim Aloo, Lumat, Shasa Tiel, Sgt. Doallyn, Wooof (Palace Klaatu) and Taym Dren-Garen (HE SHOT LUKE) still aren't in my collection. And some of them aren't even coming in the next few years. (I know some are coming or are planned).

    That said, I have been buying figures for 15 years and can't believe how full and diverse my collection is. If they stopped tomorrow and I could not get a single additional figure I could not say I would have deep regrets.

    But I sure would be sorry I didn't get the Tonnikas, Bom Vimdin, and Wooof!

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    My interest level, on a scale of 1 to 100, is 1.
    I stopped collecting years ago.
    I've purchased maybe 5 figures in the last 4-5 years and I've skipped many figures I would have killed for years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketboy View Post
    My interest level, on a scale of 1 to 100, is 1.
    I stopped collecting years ago.
    I've purchased maybe 5 figures in the last 4-5 years and I've skipped many figures I would have killed for years ago.
    Why do you think that is? (To all of the above?) Do you miss your old gung-ho attitude (about collecting)?


    Quote Originally Posted by Droid
    People can argue all day that Saga Legends and the Clone Wars line don't hurt the number of figures from the films that are put out. But between those lines, resculpts, and rereleases I feel like there are very, very few new figures of new characters from the films in a given year and that makes me less interested in the line.

    I still buy figures I want, and always will. But I have cut way back.

    I will be patient, and in this line that pays off. But, I find it baffling there were no cantina figures this year. I find it hard to believe that characters like Kitster, Wald, Cliegg Lars, Bom Vimdin, the Ranat, Sim Aloo, Lumat, Shasa Tiel, Sgt. Doallyn, Wooof (Palace Klaatu) and Taym Dren-Garen (HE SHOT LUKE) still aren't in my collection. And some of them aren't even coming in the next few years. (I know some are coming or are planned).
    Rebelscum has Kitster, Wald, Bom Vimdim, Sim Aloo, Lumat, Sgt. Doaylln - basically your whole "want list" on their rumor list for the vintage collection in 2010 to 2011. Of course Wooof will be out in the stores before Christmas.

    Droid, you basically described my attitude exactly. However, I like that my toy expenditure has dropped (I don't need another Jedi Luke) but my enthusiasm has not. I am still really excited, anticipating seeing the first images of a Bom Vimdim or Taym Dren-Garen figure.

    Hasbro has been profittable, turning the line into a Clone Wars promotion platform. While I don't buy every CW figure, I do enjoy some. The new bounty hunter sculpts look great and the cartoon is fun. Though I myself would love a new cartoon set in the OT times - preferably just after them - and seeing Han, Luke, and Leia back in action.

    InsaneJediGirl, you're a good person for helping out your family like that. You and JamesBondo07 both have to turn your focus to display / storage room too - with your basement projects. I face this dilemma, too. California homes don't usually have basements, but I need to get a bigger place as well as buy display cases (Ikea detolfs, and elongated display case fixtures both) but I'm spending less on the toys, so it's a good time to divert money there. Our living quarters improvements are still "spending on our collections" (for display and storage room) but not exclusively (for most people).

    Darth Metalmute: availability stuck out as one of your biggest issues. Except during movie year promotions, or the initial wave changes (like 2008's launch of Build-A-Droids or the present launch of Vintage-Style Cards that you brought up) this has always been the nature of our hobby. I think scalping Star Wars is sort of reached its expiration date in this bad economy (for a while and with the shift to kids buying Clone Wars) but collectors still horde or army-build.

    I never got the Talz (Thi-Sen, CW - and I'd buy up to 5 on sighting them), I passed 2 firefighting battle droids to my friend when we were shopping together - and never found those again, either, nor the TX Tactical Droid.

    It's funny, but I really never had any trouble with the movie figures (PT or OT) but I still played that game of waiting in front of the store until it opened, though I've checked with the toy department managers and only go hunting at stores on their "delivery / shelfing dates." (Truck dates - same thing.)

    Anyway, my purchasing list is smaller, but once in a while - I bought 3 Twin Pod Cloud Cars for example. (I got 1 of the new pilots for a variant, but had purchased 8 in 2004's release and saved them for the moment when the vehicle would be released; 2 of them were never to go in a vehicle but just be walking around the set of a Cloud City display). I did not buy the new snowspeeder at all. I bought 3 in 1996 and haven't looked back. I also did not need Dak - though I do buy Wedge for other scenes. But in the snowspeeder cockpit, you cannot tell that all my figures I'm displaying are the 1996 Luke Pilot figure - except for the fact that I just told you.

    So I'll still be here and feel some measure of triumph when I get to add Wooof and Taym Dren-Garen to my Jabba displays, and Bom Vimdim to the cantina. Oh - and I'll spend my time at baseball games, rock concerts, going boating, and earning my master's degree while I'm waiting. (And hopefully getting a bigger home, too). - Well I have to do something while I'm waiting for Hasbro to make Jocasta Nu. Maybe I'll go traveling again and when I get back, Hasbro will have announced her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycho View Post
    (To all of the above?) Do you miss your old gung-ho attitude (about collecting)?
    Well I still have the gung-ho attitude, but it's shifted from purchasing to see what Hasbro is releasing. I enjoy seeing the new figures from the coverage on this site and seeing them in the stores. But I also like leaving the store without spending any money. When I was collecting, I had a TRU credit card that was for SW only. I gave up credit cards shortly after I gave up Star Wars collecting.

    In the prime of my collecting, I was a completist. It's in my blood. If I collect something, I have to have it all. I have to beat every game I play 100%. And it wasn't just the 3.5" line, it was legos, 12", novels, games, props, etc. As a result, I was going to TRU, Target, Mejier, K-Mart, and Wal-Mart, two to three times a week just to get that exclusive store figure. It ruined my day to walk out empty handed. I had to put a stop to it. It was an addiction and I had to quit cold turkey. When my wife and I decided to have another child and I was losing my Star Wars room to the attic it gave me a perfect oppertunity to quit. I don't miss this aspect of collecting at all.

    Darth Metalmute: availability stuck out as one of your biggest issues. Except during movie year promotions, or the initial wave changes (like 2008's launch of Build-A-Droids or the present launch of Vintage-Style Cards that you brought up) this has always been the nature of our hobby. I think scalping Star Wars is sort of reached its expiration date in this bad economy (for a while and with the shift to kids buying Clone Wars) but collectors still horde or army-build.
    I've been collecting since the beginning and have never seen the disparity of figures like I have in the past 3 years. It was hard to find the final POTF figures in the 80's, but at least that was due to the line ending. I think what we've seen recently is an over saturation of the first wave due to street dating. The shelves become empty months before the date and in order to fill them, there's only one wave of each line out. The stores are so eager to sell product that they over order the first wave. TRU broke the street date and I had hoped that it meant we would see more figures. But while Wave 1 of the vintage was selling out, instead of seeing wave 2, we got a giant cardboard display with over ten of each figure of Wave 1. Try selling those out considering they are old news. On the plus side, it was the first time I saw Fett, which I bought.
    Last edited by Darth Metalmute; 10-06-2010 at 06:32 PM. Reason: Hats off to TRU. I went to get a B-day present and low and behold they had 6 cases of Wave 2. Still had over 150 of wave 1.
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    After reading JMG's thread from this time last year, I had forgotten how much doom and gloom everyone had about the future of the line. People thought the realistic figures were done forever - they didn't realize that, though The Legacy Collection wasn't doing well, that didn't mean there wouldn't still be more movie-based product. Hopefully The Vintage Collection is doing better. There seems to be much more enthusiasm so far, but some figures from the ESB wave are hanging around longer than perhaps we'd like.

    The focus during non-movie years - specifically within the last few - to release the majority of the product in the last few months of the year has been something of an adjustment. I know it annoys a lot of people, but it's just something we might have to get used to. I know that, with The Vintage Collection continuing for two years, there probably won't be as much of a gap next summer as the line won't have to reset. There have been lean times before - I remember hardly anything coming out in 2001.

    I also don't understand why people complain so much about repacks. Just ignore them. They're not for you. They support the line so that we can keep getting new collector-focused figures. They did that in the vintage days - nearly every figure was released on two or more different cardbacks as the line went forward, and nowadays people don't expect it to happen. It even happened in the 90's when figures would get repacked from red cards to green cards to Freeze Frame cards; for a few years at the start of the last decade, Hasbro didn't do it much, and people apparently forgot that this ever happened before. Then when Hasbro tries to update an old figure instead of re-releasing an old one, people complain. It's a no-win situation.

    Same thing with the amount of product - people feel it's either not enough or too much. Christ, people! Get what you want and don't let yourself get overwhelmed.

    At any rate, apart from the baseless complaints I see here too often (not necessarily in this thread, but in general), I'm enjoying the hobby as much as ever. Getting Jabba, for instance, was a highlight of the entire time I've been collecting. The figures keep getting better and better. I'm making money to get everything I want (which, as it turns out, is everything, aside from repacks - again, I just ignore them and carry on). My family and friends are supportive of it. I'm excited for The Clone Wars, the Blu-ray, and the 3-D, and whatever comes next. I have absolutely no reason to stop collecting now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycho View Post
    You and JamesBondo07 both have to turn your focus to display / storage room too - with your basement projects. I face this dilemma, too. California homes don't usually have basements, but I need to get a bigger place as well as buy display cases (Ikea detolfs, and elongated display case fixtures both) but I'm spending less on the toys, so it's a good time to divert money there. Our living quarters improvements are still "spending on our collections" (for display and storage room) but not exclusively (for most people).

    Ikea has a lot of nice solutions I've noticed, so I may gravitate in that direction. Maybe a few bookshelves or something that won't take up too much room....Who knows. I know when I have a place of my own a number of this issues will be solved.

    My more pressing issue is my book/comic book/graphic novel collection which is overflowing. Thinking of doing some type of creative thing with shelves under my bed...kind of horizontal bookshelves. We'll see how that goes.
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