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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    BB, you mean datestamped pressed into the figure itself?
    Yeah, I'm not sure what else to call it.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure what else to call it.
    That's the right term, just wanted to make sure you weren't talking about the date stamp put into the card - I'm not even sure they do that anymore though, now that I think about it.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    That's the right term, just wanted to make sure you weren't talking about the date stamp put into the card - I'm not even sure they do that anymore though, now that I think about it.
    All of the wave 4 figures I bought so far also have the datestamp pressed into the bottom left of the back of the card. Of the ones I've opened, the datestamp on the figure has always matched the datestamp on the card.

    I'm not 100% clear on exactly what that date is supposed to represent, however.
    "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence… When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    All of the wave 4 figures I bought so far also have the datestamp pressed into the bottom left of the back of the card. Of the ones I've opened, the datestamp on the figure has always matched the datestamp on the card.

    I'm not 100% clear on exactly what that date is supposed to represent, however.
    Oh, I didn't realize cards still have datestamps, interesting.

    Datestamps are quality control measures to track down which batches an item was made in. The numbers correspond to year - week of the year - batch number, I think. It's been a while since we did anything with them, so I don't fully remember.
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  5. #25
    Got my order today (the case says that it's W2.2) and my Evazan had no pink scar (which I prefer) and Kithaba had the brown headband (I'd have preferred the red). If this is any indication of when the variants were produced Evazan without the scar should be easy to find, but Kithaba with the red headband seems to have been a late change.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    Oh, I didn't realize cards still have datestamps, interesting.

    Datestamps are quality control measures to track down which batches an item was made in. The numbers correspond to year - week of the year - batch number, I think. It's been a while since we did anything with them, so I don't fully remember.
    From what I was told, the first digit was the last digit of the year, the next three numbers referred to the day of the year (1-366), and the last number was the shift number.

    You said you received your Kithaba in the wave 3 thread, what do you think of the figure? You can talk about Evazan too if you absolutely must.
    "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence… When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

  7. #27
    I got this wave a few weeks ago - it was the first case assortment that I found, so I don't yet have Wedge or the 501st trooper.

    As has been said, I didn't necessarily think that another Aayla was super necessary, but it's an absolutely amazing figure. She's basically the same size as previous Aayla figures, so her tallness is nothing new or weird, really.

    The difference between the Aayla figures is nothing compared to the difference between Dr. Evazan and his previous releases. I got the version without the scar, which I prefer anyway. He looks awesome next to last year's Ponda Baba; it's too bad I'm one of only three people in the whole world who found that one.

    Nom Anor is quite a chunky figure. He's well-executed aside from the coral armor thing not attaching to his back very well, especially not when the cloak is involved. It can also be a pain to make the hood sit behind him correctly. I dislike the Yuuzhan Vong storyline, but the figure's fine for what it is.

    As for Kithaba - eh, who the hell cares about him? Really, though, the level of detail is fantastic, and the paint helps the figure a lot. Mine is the brownish bandana, though either would have been fine for me.
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  8. #28
    Ordered Evazan and Kithaba off of Amazon, they came late last week along with the Luke Hoth I ordered, so the box had TVC in all 3 OT flavors.

    Kithaba was the brown variant, and I would have much preferred the red one as the brown is very boring next to the bandolier and gunbelt. Also, it seems like the eyes are more vibrant on the red-bandanna one. Kithaba is an ok figure, but after so many very strong showings from OT aliens, he's a bit of a letdown in my eyes.

    His first offense is that he's just a bit plain in his outfit, not the figure's fault but the character is a bit dynamically lacking.

    His head isn't as green as I'd like, and his hands are lighter than his head.

    The head and neck also bug me a little in that they're asymmetrically designed - this is not an uncommon situation the past 5 years or so, the head drifting more to the right, but this figure has it double from the head sculpt and the angle the neck is set at. The head and neck also don't seem like they go together that well, the neck tapers in so much to meet the small ball-joint that the doesn't look attached to the head at all, and then they didn't paint the neck to match the head.

    The main offense really is that he's too skinny, his torso tapers in quickly to be a smaller guy but stays the same length, it's like one of those annoying skinny-jeans wearing kids, or Olive Oyl with manlier shoulders.

    His bandolier is a separate piece, and while they sculpted the tunic with light dents to receive the bandolier, I suppose you could move it to the other side for the mirror-flop scene; it bugs me that it gets under his arm and away from his shoulder a little, but that's a minor quibble.

    His blaster fits in his holster and has a nice black deco with gray accent areas. The vibro axe is an ok sculpt but feels like something's missing from the business end, and the deco is very plain.

    All in all, Kithaba isn't terrible but isn't a great figure IMO, he's a C, maybe a little better if you find him for $9, but I'd have a hard time justifying a B - minus even then.


    Evazan was the pink scar variant thankfully, I don't think I would have been happy without that. Hasbro used a very gruesome shot of his face, it's in shadow so the sunken in eyeball shows a lot more hollow above it, it's quite yucky. The figure's sculpt doesn't quite have that aspect, so they not only gave the face the pink scar, but also a black painted line over that eye's lid - it doesn't quite work as intended, but it doesn't ruin the figure the way photos of it had looked (nothing about this figure photographs all that well IMO). This is, I believe, the very first Dr. Evazan single-carded figure, and the second ever Evazan sculpt after the '97 POTF2 Cinema Scene mess.

    My first impressions of this figure were that it's good, but has a few issues. I'll break it down a little for both good and bad...
    - Good: exists.
    - Bad: took too damned long, making it harder to live up to the hype of finally being done right.
    - Good: sculpt and paint are very much in line with the '70s alien look of the character.
    - Bad: outfit paint has a couple big edge bleed issues, and the figure overall doesn't quite feel grimy enough.
    - Good: fairly well-articulated.
    - Bad: ball-jointed head means long, thin neck and skinny lower head.
    - Good: figure isn't as skinny as pictures suggested, he's not tubby but he's got enough girth to pass the memory test.
    - Bad: his vest is sculpted into his torso and feels a touch limited.
    - Good: the face looks somewhat like Evazan
    - Bad: the right side of the face doesn't have enough scarring, the mouth is a tiny bit smiley and chin is too narrow.

    Ok, so that's the basics. The only thing I think really stands out in a big enough way to talk about is the facial expression, the right eyebrow and lip are higher than they should be, it looks quizzical and slightly amused at first blush. The mouth isn't as bad once you study it a little, it's meant to be neutral with a very slight sneer bearing teeth - they bothered to paint a tiny tooth showing - but it lacks the downturned mouth from the other side. It's not a disaster, but it's not mean enough an expression, and the scarring not standing out as much as the picture similarly give it the effect of "just a regular guy" syndrome at first blush, although he gets past all that without too much trouble.

    The figure sports just 1 accessory, the same blaster that Ponda Baba came with but in black, it's fine but I think it's a tad big for the scale. He's got a separate holster on his right hip for it, it fits but sticks out quite a bit.

    All in all, it's an ok figure that should have been a home run due chiefly to the amount of waiting we put up with to get here. It's a B rather than an A+ which isn't terrible, but since this darn well better be the last Evazan we have to buy, it would have been nice to have better paint, more work on the scarring, more grime overall, and a slightly better expression.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

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    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    Kithaba isn't terrible but isn't a great figure IMO, he's a C, maybe a little better if you find him for $9, but I'd have a hard time justifying a B - minus even then.
    I don't even want to talk to you anymore. :chagrined:

    Just kidding, I understand that not everyone is going to be as excited about Kithaba, as a character or an action figure, as I am. I definitely understand all of your criticisms, but most of them are not a big deal for me when balanced against the 29 year wait that I had for this figure.

    I do agree that the gummy staff is a bit of an annoyance, but I had a couple of extra Slave Leia staffs that I was able to use instead. Also the unpainted neck was bothersome and I actually went out and bought some paint to fix that on my two display Kithabas.

    The skin tone looks fine to me and I actually think it needs to be more brown than green. Although I'm basing that off of the archived photos that I've seen of the mask itself.

    Also, I think Kithaba actually was wearing "skinny jeans" in the battle:
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    "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence… When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

  10. #30
    My problem with Kithaba isn't the character, the character himself isn't a C, just that the figure has a few missteps which bug me - the long skinny torso being the chief issue. It's just a lot of little things at a fairly high price which gets under my skin, it adds up to frustration because of how not-terrible the recipe is.

    As for the green and yellow in his skin, the pics on your site alone show more than the figure has in-camera (I always prefer coloring based on how it looks in-camera and on-screen to prop accuracy, otherwise we'd have purple Batmobile toys since they had to paint it purple to show up black in-camera). I hadn't noticed before but your shots show his hands being quite brown verging on orange, the figure certainly doesn't deliver that but I wouldn't have liked it if it did - even if it were accurate! I suppose with that take on the hands thing being a compromise between the 2 extremes, I could give the figure a C+ and maybe a B- if I were feeling generous.

    His pants aren't that tight in other shots, and they're not tapering up tightly - skinny jeans in a SW movie might ruin my fandom forever.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "In Brooklyn, a castle, is where dwell I"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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