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    eFX SCOUT TROOPER HELMET LEGEND EDITION!!

    EFX is pleased to announce the latest helmet in the Legend Edition line.
    SCOUT TROOPER!


    Our helmet was created by utilizing the original ROTJ production molds which as far as I know is the first time that original production molds from the original trilogy have been used to create a licensed collectible.
    How awesome is that?!


    The original screen-used helmets were made in vac formed plastic halves which were then glued together.
    The seam lines were filled with putty and sanded (relatively) smooth and then the entire helmet was painted white.
    The seam lines on the original helmets were very fragile and every known original has cracks in the paint in these areas.
    Because of vulnerability of the seam lines as well as the production and CS nightmare it would surely cause, the decision was made to create our replicas in fiberglass.
    Even though the materials will be different, every other aspect of the helmet will be as screen accurate as possible including the overall forms, paint, detailing, accessories, and function.


    There will be two different editions, a weathered screen-accurate version and a clean non-weathered version.
    We are not quite sure at this point if the weathered version will become the Legend with the clean version becoming the Limited as it happened with the ANH Vader.
    For the time being, we're just going to label them 'weathered screen-accurate' and 'clean'.
    Both versions will be identical with the exception of the weathering effect.


    Hope you enjoy the pics!!


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    Well, I think I'm game for one of these. I like the clean version better than the weathered one, which looks like somebody sprayed it with a can of spraypaint. Their explanation for using fiberglass over ABS seems reasonable, even though it means that it wont be from the same materials as the original. I just hope the thing actually goes into production. Over the years efx has shown alot of prototypes, without anything coming to fruition. I thought by now we'd be able to at least pre-order the hero stormtrooper helmet they showed us, but that project has gone quiet.

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    Good job Serg, I've promoted your post to a news article and linked it back to this thread as well.

    It looks really good, and I'm glad they're changing construction to be more robust, I can't imagine vacuform bringing in enough of a profit to make it worthwhile anyway.

    I can also see why they might not want to call the weathered deco a legend, the original prop's deco really does look like cheap spray-on like Snowtrooper said, hard to justify the claim that it's got a legacy to something so blah, plus they've already changed the construction method.

    The gloved hand opening it is my favorite shot there, but I'd definitely prefer the non-weathered version for my collection.

    I'll wait on the price, but I can see getting into this. I'd want them to replicate the blaster as well to go with it.
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    Personally I'm quite disappointed of the use of fiberglass and full interior padding. I know this is a way easier method for a licensed company to mass produce but I also feel the Legend name lost its aura. There are Kropserkel (KS) and LoneWolf (LW) making helmets out of ABS. In fact LW is the most accurate Scout helmet to date, using the same methods - vac formed ABS plastic halves, with accurate 3M headband interior. eFx could have gone the Kropserkel way: made of ABS but a simpler method. I have the KS helmet and it is great.

    I might get the eFX clean one if price is right though - looks way more impressive than the weathered one, plus I'm not quite trusty regarding the quality of eFX final weathering.



    See below the LoneWolf Scout helmet:

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    BTW a few more pics of the eFX protos:

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    Not sure if eFx will ever make blasters alas. It seems it is because of the new gun laws... Even though the Scout blaster is not like a real gun, neither would be a Royal guard force pike for example. We'll see
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiurusu View Post
    Personally I'm quite disappointed of the use of fiberglass and full interior padding. I know this is a way easier method for a licensed company to mass produce but I also feel the Legend name lost its aura.
    They just said they weren't sure if they were going to call it a Legend.


    LoneWolf one looks nice there, but the "mouth" doesn't quite hit it perfectly for me, the greeble piece is separate from the panel under it, it's throwing it off visually for my tastes. Still, very nice. The ABS looks so chintzy, this is one of the reasons I'm on the fence about prop replicas being TOO behind-the-scenes accurate.


    Not sure if eFx will ever make blasters alas. It seems it is because of the new gun laws... Even though the Scout blaster is not like a real gun, neither would be a Royal guard force pike for example. We'll see
    What gun law changes are you referring? I hadn't heard of this being an issue, that'd suck, around here last I checked prop replicas are allowed and realistic guns are allowed providing they have the "blaze orange" colored plug permanently affixed to the muzzle of the barrel, and stage prop guns are allowed without that. I'd buy a Scout Trooper blaster for my next stage performance of Henry the VIIIth, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    They just said they weren't sure if they were going to call it a Legend.


    LoneWolf one looks nice there, but the "mouth" doesn't quite hit it perfectly for me, the greeble piece is separate from the panel under it, it's throwing it off visually for my tastes. Still, very nice. The ABS looks so chintzy, this is one of the reasons I'm on the fence about prop replicas being TOO behind-the-scenes accurate.


    What gun law changes are you referring? I hadn't heard of this being an issue, that'd suck, around here last I checked prop replicas are allowed and realistic guns are allowed providing they have the "blaze orange" colored plug permanently affixed to the muzzle of the barrel, and stage prop guns are allowed without that. I'd buy a Scout Trooper blaster for my next stage performance of Henry the VIIIth, that's for sure.
    We cannot be 100% sure about anything what eFX says. They said Legends will be made EXACTLY like originals. Then realizing it is hard they decided to change that. Then they said the rest of the Legends will be available from other retailers. Now they said this might not be the case anymore...

    The LW is in fact 10 times more accurate than the eFX. Not sure what greeblie piece is separate from the panel under it. I can tell you that 501st, RPF and other prop sepcialists all agreed this is the most accurate helmet. I have the ABS Kropserkel Scout helmet and it is quite sturdy, no way it would fall in pieces as some say. People simply don't know the difference of a prop made in ABS and fiberglass. Especially with the first is well made by a pro. LW is way better than KS.


    As for replica guns:

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1082188/

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1084469/

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1083200/

    For more info about all this I would recommend to visit the prop replicas sections on Rebelscum, Bryan and Gino from eFX sometimes post there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiurusu View Post
    The LW is in fact 10 times more accurate than the eFX. Not sure what greeblie piece is separate from the panel under it. I can tell you that 501st, RPF and other prop sepcialists all agreed this is the most accurate helmet.
    This piece: http://www.starwarshelmets.com/2010/...trooper_20.jpg
    (taken from this review of the prop: http://www.starwarshelmets.com/star_...per_helmet.htm )
    see at the top of the motorcycle engine greeble where it blends seemlessly into the plate underneath? Actually, now that I look at it with comparison, that plate underneath has its seam set low on the LW as well. I dunno, I haven't experienced either one in person, but that's how it looks in photos, something was bugging me about the mask's mouth and I thought it was JUST the greeble having that slight gap, but it's both things throwing off my eye at the same time.


    As for replica guns:

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1082188/

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1084469/

    http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1083200/

    For more info about all this I would recommend to visit the prop replicas sections on Rebelscum, Bryan and Gino from eFX sometimes post there.
    I'll discuss it with them next time I see them, but from my research the US federal laws on firearms replicas hasn't changed on this matter nor have CA or NY state laws (NY is exceptionally stringent while CA is stringent about shipping but not owning), so it seems like he's not talking about laws in those posts, he's actually talking about some sort of import regulations and how inspectors handle it, which seems more like a hassle than a legal issue.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    This piece: http://www.starwarshelmets.com/2010/...trooper_20.jpg
    (taken from this review of the prop: http://www.starwarshelmets.com/star_...per_helmet.htm )
    see at the top of the motorcycle engine greeble where it blends seemlessly into the plate underneath? Actually, now that I look at it with comparison, that plate underneath has its seam set low on the LW as well. I dunno, I haven't experienced either one in person, but that's how it looks in photos, something was bugging me about the mask's mouth and I thought it was JUST the greeble having that slight gap, but it's both things throwing off my eye at the same time.


    I'll discuss it with them next time I see them, but from my research the US federal laws on firearms replicas hasn't changed on this matter nor have CA or NY state laws (NY is exceptionally stringent while CA is stringent about shipping but not owning), so it seems like he's not talking about laws in those posts, he's actually talking about some sort of import regulations and how inspectors handle it, which seems more like a hassle than a legal issue.
    In fact LW used a real Tamyia part for his mold. So still don't get what you don't find ok, when real specialists, including Jez (you quoted before) and CFO still think this is the best Scout helmet to date, even better than the eFX. They both handled original screen used Scout helmets. If the snout is not connected to the part underneath I'll look when my own helmet arrives. Do not forget the photos above were not taken at the same angle.
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    BTW there are also 2 things problematic with the eFX helmet too (except the interior which will be fully padded, thus already inaccurate), can you spot them?
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