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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    Maybe in a few years I will catch the latest GI Joe movie on TV or something and my interest will be rekindled, but I kind of doubt it.
    If you want to get sucked back in, check out the Resolute animated movie and the Renegades show (which you may or may not like, since it's a totally different take, but it was quite well-done). The Hama-penned continuation of the Marvel comic is pretty stellar, but the other comics in the new universe are hit and miss. Retaliation was actually pretty decent; it wasn't great, but it spent about half the movie cleaning up the mess from the craptacular first one so it could set up what should be a true G.I.Joe movie with #3.
    Tommy, close your eyes.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
    Let's see.

    I'll keep getting whatever G.I. Joe I can find, and hoping it all gets released. Not sure what's next for them; Hasbro does a great job with what they do, but they really don't seem to recognize sometimes that the franchise has the potential to be much bigger than it is. (Look at the original ARAH line. It preceded Transformers, and lasted longer. In fact, IIRC, it lasted beyond the hiatus and Generation 2 as well; if not, it was around for at least part of G2's brief existence.)

    Transformers, I'm still a pick-and-choose guy focusing on good updates to G1 characters (or characters who fit in well, like the Reveal the Shield Lugnut or GDO Powerdive). Oddly, I'm most excited about the IDW Bumblebee.

    Comics, still reading (not so much collecting, but I guess it applies) the G.I.Joe and Transformers titles, Hawkeye, Walking Dead, Atomic Robo, the TMNT reboot, and a few Vertigo and Vertigo-esque titles (Fables, Saga, American Vampire). I want to check out the new Brian Wood title and The Star Wars (based on Lucas's original notes; this sounds like it should be a blast).

    Star Wars, I wish I could say more. I like some of the later solicited 3.75" Black Series stuff, but I've no interest in re-re-re-re-resculpts that cost $10 and probably won't be perfect (and some are clearly really lacking, like Padme). I have no idea if the stuff I want will actually see release, though, the way things are going.
    Dang, you posted right before I responded last, sorry.

    GI Joe ARAH is a weird situation, I think its fans keep it from growing further. It lasted longer, as you said, but flamed out harder while TF quietly exited its first run. Its fans are very segmented, you have toy fans, comic fans, cartoon fans, and they all seem to want very different things now (sorry movies, there don't seem to be any dedicated fans of you guys). And what originally drove the line, myriad of cool vehicles, now takes a back seat for Hasbro.

    Transformers, it seems ok to me to be pick n choose.

    I'll never rectify the fact that YOU of all people are reading the Hawkeye comic on purpose.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    I think it was a slow slide away for most of it. I actually held an interest in GI Joe until 2009 when Rise of Cobra came out. But that movie dealt such a serious blow to my interest in GI Joe that it has still never recovered. Maybe in a few years I will catch the latest GI Joe movie on TV or something and my interest will be rekindled, but I kind of doubt it.

    Something similar happened to me in 2005 after I watched ROTS for the first time. I completely lost interest in Star Wars for several months, but my interest picked back up in 2006 when Hasbro started focusing on OT characters again.
    The ROC movie was preceded by a lull in the line, now that you mention it, so it was a bad place to be, it's like SW right now, the brand pushed you out it sounds like. And then the content really damaged that as well both with ROC and ROTS, I see what you mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by sith_killer_99 View Post
    I had lost interest for some time, but it was really a matter of timing. I moved from Fort Knox to Fort Hood in 06 and prepping to deploy in early 07 through mid-08. So I just didn't have the time to keep up and after 15 months down range, I REALLY didn't feel like going back and collecting the stuff I had missed.
    Ooh, moving, that's a big one! The last 2 times I moved were sorta like that, only I was back into it within about 6 months in limited fashion, no discipline with me.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
    If you want to get sucked back in, check out the Resolute animated movie and the Renegades show (which you may or may not like, since it's a totally different take, but it was quite well-done). The Hama-penned continuation of the Marvel comic is pretty stellar, but the other comics in the new universe are hit and miss. Retaliation was actually pretty decent; it wasn't great, but it spent about half the movie cleaning up the mess from the craptacular first one so it could set up what should be a true G.I.Joe movie with #3.
    I don't know what it would take for me to get pulled back into GI Joe at this point. I've always preferred the more realistic characters from the toy line, so maybe if we got a super-realistic film that was similar in tone to Black Hawk Down, that might do it. Instead of having Cobra as these over-the-top comic book villains, they could actually write them as a realistic terrorist organization AND NO NINJAS!

    I think Resolute was definitely on the right track, I remember really enjoying that series. Maybe I'll check out Renegades. I wonder if they have it on YouTube.

    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    The ROC movie was preceded by a lull in the line, now that you mention it, so it was a bad place to be, it's like SW right now, the brand pushed you out it sounds like. And then the content really damaged that as well both with ROC and ROTS, I see what you mean.
    I did pick up a few of the Pursuit of Cobra figures in early 2010, but my interest in those toys faded within just a couple of days and I put them aside and forgot about them.

    I actually remember Snake-Eyes being my all-time favorite character when I was a kid; but I never owned a toy of him. So, my dream was to own a Snake-Eyes figure when I got older. However, by the time ROC came out, it was Snake-Eyes overload in the toy aisles.

    It's kind of the same with Darth Vader, he was my all-time favorite Star Wars figure for almost 20 years, but there has just been so much Darth Vader merchandise made that I've almost completely lost interest in the character. I don't even own a Darth Vader figure right now. I'm trying to see if having a Vader-shaped void in my collection will actually help revive my interest in the character. It seems to be working for Darth Vader, because after only 6-7 months, I'm starting to pay attention to Vader figures again. It's been over 3 years since I sold my last Snake-Eyes figure and my interest in that character hasn't returned yet.

  5. #15
    I only collect the Hasbro 3 3/4" SW line, and it's crazy how dead this year has been so far. Aside from four Class I ships and three Class II ones, there's been basically nothing in this country - I did get the Canadian MH and TCW figures, though it's not like they were tremendously exciting or anything. We've had lulls in the first half of the year before, and it's basically been an annual occurrence since 2008 that I've gotten used to, but in terms of how much product is available this is worse than anything I can recall. (For many people, I assume it's felt this way since last year's distribution woes, which were not really an issue for me.) I expected Hasbro to be able to ship out the later TVC waves better, as they planned to do, but everything I've seen on my far-too-infrequent-but-what's-really-the-point store visits has either been big fat nothin' or wave 3, which was more than half TPM repacks.

    In this downtime, I've been getting older items I'd missed from online and a few fortunate comic shop visits. I consider myself to be a loose completist, even though I buy everything packaged first, and my list of needs is continually shrinking. For posterity's sake (and, uh, if anyone wants to trade/sell me some of these), here's everything I'm missing, aside from a few Disney build-a-droid parts that I still want to swap:

    69. Bastila Shan (The Vintage Collection, 2011)
    24. Boba Fett (Movie Heroes, 2012 - European release)
    *Sith Speeder Game with Darth Maul (Episode I, 2000 - Tyger Electronics)
    *Boba Fett Figure with Cup (Revenge of the Sith, 2005)
    *Electronic X-wing Fighter (POTF2, 1995)
    *Trade Federation Tank (Episode I, 1999)
    *Luke Skywalker's X-wing Fighter with R2-D2 Figure ("Saga," 2002 - Toys R Us Exclusive)
    *Hyperdrive Repair Kit (Episode I, 1999)
    *Tatooine Disguise Kit (Episode I, 1999)

    I'll continue to be a completist for this scale, and even though the first wave of TBS doesn't look exciting (which isn't helped by the fact that we've known about these figures for over a year, and they don't have the awesome build-a-droid feature anymore to make them more interesting), it sounds like there are more interesting figures coming later in the year and I've been jonesing for my fix. I don't really have the space for a 6" line, as I'm thinking they will get released more and more often and add up quickly, at least for a little while. I'll very likely get at least R2-D2 and Darth Maul, but I'll have to rein this in before it gets out of control.

    My friend recently gave me his old Ewok Village and Dagobah playsets, and in looking for replacement Endor parts, I found that it was going to be cheaper to buy an entire complete set - so that was actually my first-ever vintage Kenner purchase. The two sets (I'll be returning the incomplete Ewok Village to my friend) are the first vintage items I've owned at all. I'm not sure what I want to do from here. I've wanted those two pieces specifically for a long time partly since they have no modern counterparts and have always looked cool in and of themselves. I was kind of thinking that things would slow down a little and I'd be able to focus on getting a set of vintage figures, but that was before the new films were announced. So this might be something I have to wait a while longer to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeEye7
    My collecting has dwindled down to Funko SW bobble head figures. I reached Hasbro burn-out years ago.
    I don't own any Funko products, but I really dig the fact that they have the license for so many different franchises and iconic characters and trot them all out in the same style (even if some are bobbleheads and some aren't, they look similar). The fact that the same look includes both Mary Poppins and a Game of Thrones White Walker is just crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sith_killer_99
    Well, I sorta stopped collecting the figures a while ago. However, I am planning on collecting the 6 inch Black line.

    Honestly, my focus shifted from basic figures to larger format higher end stuff back in 2006.
    I wonder how many lapsed collectors will be brought back by the 6" line. I also wonder if it won't be up to their standards after collecting higher-end products for years.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    I wonder how many lapsed collectors will be brought back by the 6" line. I also wonder if it won't be up to their standards after collecting higher-end products for years.
    I believe you are thinking about this backwards. As someone who is used to paying $8-10 per figure, then of course we would expect the quality on a $20 figure to be twice as good. However, someone who is used to paying $100-$150 (and even up to $300-$400) per figure is going to be VERY forgiving of a $20 toy.

    What people seem to be forgetting is that the 6" figures are still going to be toys sold in the toy aisle, not high-end collectibles. I think Hasbro's spiel about catering to collectors is just hype to promote this line. They will still need a significant number of these figures to sell to kids for the line to have any sort of longevity.

  7. #17
    Because of how dead the whole 3 3/4 scene has been, I've been focusing way more on prop replicas. I've gotten some really nice ones over the last year, including a full set of stormtrooper armor. I've also been focusing a little more on Star Trek ships/weapons. I've gotten the Klingon BOP and the Kruge disruptor and have plans for Excelsior and maybe Enterprise E. I'm by no means out of collecting SW 3 3/4 figures, but its going to be far more limited than it was before. I'm not sure about collecting the 6 in line. That'll be a wait and see for me.

  8. #18
    I have decided to collect the complete cookbooks and Food Network DVDs of Paula Deen. I have a feeling those will be tough to come by in the future.
    Tommy, close your eyes.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
    I have decided to collect the complete cookbooks and Food Network DVDs of Paula Deen. I have a feeling those will be tough to come by in the future.
    I suspect you can put her career in the RIP section.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    I don't know what it would take for me to get pulled back into GI Joe at this point. I've always preferred the more realistic characters from the toy line, so maybe if we got a super-realistic film that was similar in tone to Black Hawk Down, that might do it. Instead of having Cobra as these over-the-top comic book villains, they could actually write them as a realistic terrorist organization AND NO NINJAS!

    I think Resolute was definitely on the right track, I remember really enjoying that series. Maybe I'll check out Renegades. I wonder if they have it on YouTube.
    For me, if there's no Cobra or lite sci-fi and lite-ninja stuff, there's no reason to have the ARAH concept there at all, it's just another military movie. Part of the appeal of GI Joe ARAH is the unique, colorful characters and weapons and vehicles and scenarios, the ability to be a standout personality and behavior while still working together to stop an enemy that is far too different from anything previous fought to use conventional military tactics and behaviors. And I think at this point ARAH has usurped the GI Joe name, so it'd take a big reboot with strong vision to break away from that. What do you think the GI Joe appeal would be without the ARAH elements would be for you?

    I did pick up a few of the Pursuit of Cobra figures in early 2010, but my interest in those toys faded within just a couple of days and I put them aside and forgot about them.
    Yeah, same here.

    It's kind of the same with Darth Vader, he was my all-time favorite Star Wars figure for almost 20 years, but there has just been so much Darth Vader merchandise made that I've almost completely lost interest in the character. I don't even own a Darth Vader figure right now. I'm trying to see if having a Vader-shaped void in my collection will actually help revive my interest in the character. It seems to be working for Darth Vader, because after only 6-7 months, I'm starting to pay attention to Vader figures again. It's been over 3 years since I sold my last Snake-Eyes figure and my interest in that character hasn't returned yet.
    I think it's because there are so many mediocre Vaders and Snake-Eyes figures out there, just rehashing beats without addressing real issues. That's what is supposed to make Sideshow's 12" versions special, but they still had their own issues too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    I only collect the Hasbro 3 3/4" SW line, and it's crazy how dead this year has been so far. Aside from four Class I ships and three Class II ones, there's been basically nothing in this country - I did get the Canadian MH and TCW figures, though it's not like they were tremendously exciting or anything. We've had lulls in the first half of the year before, and it's basically been an annual occurrence since 2008 that I've gotten used to, but in terms of how much product is available this is worse than anything I can recall. (For many people, I assume it's felt this way since last year's distribution woes, which were not really an issue for me.) I expected Hasbro to be able to ship out the later TVC waves better, as they planned to do, but everything I've seen on my far-too-infrequent-but-what's-really-the-point store visits has either been big fat nothin' or wave 3, which was more than half TPM repacks.
    Do you really count those class 1 and 2 as new ships? Just one of them is ACTUALLY new in any meaningful way, the MTT Droid, to me the rest are uninspiring rehashes of existing pieces, and most seem like a step down. Then again, I don't actually own any of them, so I'm only judging based on seeing them.

    This lull has really sucked the interest out of the brand for me, this feels different from the lull like the post-AOTC lull where at least there was a hunger and a hope for something good. This just seems to me like the brand is dead in the water and not suggesting hope of any kind. Considering last year ended with a lull too, it seems like this lull has also run longer, but interest in what's next tapered off quickly and has kinda flatlined.

    I'll continue to be a completist for this scale, and even though the first wave of TBS doesn't look exciting (which isn't helped by the fact that we've known about these figures for over a year, and they don't have the awesome build-a-droid feature anymore to make them more interesting), it sounds like there are more interesting figures coming later in the year and I've been jonesing for my fix. I don't really have the space for a 6" line, as I'm thinking they will get released more and more often and add up quickly, at least for a little while. I'll very likely get at least R2-D2 and Darth Maul, but I'll have to rein this in before it gets out of control.
    Lack of the BAD parts killed my interest in a lot of these, possibly all of the first 2 waves.

    The 6" line I'll dabble in, but at the price to quality, I don't think I'll invest much.

    My friend recently gave me his old Ewok Village and Dagobah playsets, and in looking for replacement Endor parts, I found that it was going to be cheaper to buy an entire complete set - so that was actually my first-ever vintage Kenner purchase. The two sets (I'll be returning the incomplete Ewok Village to my friend) are the first vintage items I've owned at all. I'm not sure what I want to do from here. I've wanted those two pieces specifically for a long time partly since they have no modern counterparts and have always looked cool in and of themselves. I was kind of thinking that things would slow down a little and I'd be able to focus on getting a set of vintage figures, but that was before the new films were announced. So this might be something I have to wait a while longer to do.
    Nice gets, those are really cool, I had 'em both as a kid and wrecked Dagobah quite well.

    The new films are a big mystery I think, collecting may not wait for them, but Disney may not care if collectors wait.

    I wonder how many lapsed collectors will be brought back by the 6" line. I also wonder if it won't be up to their standards after collecting higher-end products for years.
    I suspect unless Hasbro gets a home run with the first 3 waves, they're going to struggle. They're going into a new scale where they already struggle with Marvel, and Mattel struggles with DC and MOTU, yet with a higher pricetag. I'd like to see them hit that home run though.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    I believe you are thinking about this backwards. As someone who is used to paying $8-10 per figure, then of course we would expect the quality on a $20 figure to be twice as good. However, someone who is used to paying $100-$150 (and even up to $300-$400) per figure is going to be VERY forgiving of a $20 toy.

    What people seem to be forgetting is that the 6" figures are still going to be toys sold in the toy aisle, not high-end collectibles. I think Hasbro's spiel about catering to collectors is just hype to promote this line. They will still need a significant number of these figures to sell to kids for the line to have any sort of longevity.
    I dunno BB, when we last had collectors leave the Hasbro line for premiums - usually GG or Koto or Sideshow - whenever they took a look at the new big thing from hasbro they'd keep their quality concerns at the forefront and be very unforgiving, with only maybe an AT-AT or a BMF to coax cash out of them. Hasbro is going into the older collecting market, these are made with Gentle Giant, they're highly articulated which is a turn off for kids apparently, they're more expensive than Marvel Legends or DC Universe which are less kid-focused; if Hasbro starts trying to cut corners to grab more of the kid segment, they're going to cut themselves off at the knees by alienating both markets. If I'm spending $150 for a near-perfect Darth Vader, what about a $20 highly imperfect Vader would appeal to me? I think John is right and that's a hurdle rather than a help. Plus, it doesn't even tie into their old collections.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowtrooper View Post
    Because of how dead the whole 3 3/4 scene has been, I've been focusing way more on prop replicas. I've gotten some really nice ones over the last year, including a full set of stormtrooper armor. I've also been focusing a little more on Star Trek ships/weapons. I've gotten the Klingon BOP and the Kruge disruptor and have plans for Excelsior and maybe Enterprise E. I'm by no means out of collecting SW 3 3/4 figures, but its going to be far more limited than it was before. I'm not sure about collecting the 6 in line. That'll be a wait and see for me.
    Slow-playing it seems to pay off for you in those areas, perhaps that is the right way to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
    I have decided to collect the complete cookbooks and Food Network DVDs of Paula Deen. I have a feeling those will be tough to come by in the future.
    I dunno, I've already heard from folks who donated that stuff to charity, gonna be a flood of it rather than collectible unless folks have book & merch burnings... oh the irony of that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maradona View Post
    I suspect you can put her career in the RIP section.
    I wonder if she's going to be popular with a... certain set of folks after this.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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