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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    Where are you seeing back pics of the Stormtrooper?
    It's shown in this second collection of images from JTA (which was later followed up by a third set.)

    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    R2 looks like a huge step back from the drink tray one we got 3 years ago, the panel lines are cut way deeper here on both the body and dome, the only thing that's better is the main eye.
    R2-D2 is a repaint of the TAC version (which had the flame effects that attached to the Super Battle Droid from the same wave), which itself was a retool of the 2005 R4-G9 mold. I'm not sure if I would have preferred this figure on the build-a-droid body, but I think this one works just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    I don't care at all about the clone, Luminara (how many Luminaras do we need at this point???) or Pablo-Jill. I don't think I care about Ep 2 Anakin either but am not sure.
    Anakin is by far the best version of his AOTC appearance. The jawline is a little thick - the head is recycled from the Target exclusive Geonosis Arena Showdown set, but painted a little better. But it's very nice to not have those black soft-goods eyesores anymore, and the added articulation helps with posing the figure in more dynamic ways.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    Luminara (how many Luminaras do we need at this point???) or Pablo-Jill.
    From the photos, Luminara and Pablo Jill look to be the best figures in the entire wave. It's just too bad I don't care about either character in the slightest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    It's shown in this second collection of images from JTA (which was later followed up by a third set.)
    Man, that Stormtrooper is just looking worse and worse. If it's not the horrible helmet sculpt or the giraffe neck, it's the crappy paint apps. In fact, the paint on that helmet is worse than anything I've seen in the 5-POA Saga Legends line.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
    It's shown in this second collection of images from JTA (which was later followed up by a third set.)
    Ah, ok. Yuck, that figure needs to go.

    R2-D2 is a repaint of the TAC version (which had the flame effects that attached to the Super Battle Droid from the same wave), which itself was a retool of the 2005 R4-G9 mold. I'm not sure if I would have preferred this figure on the build-a-droid body, but I think this one works just fine.
    Oh, ok. Why would they do this? It wasn't that great a figure before when it was covered in oil and fire effects, but I certainly cannot imagine spending even more for a plain version when it's just not special. You can spend that $10 and let us know how it turns out.

    Anakin is by far the best version of his AOTC appearance. The jawline is a little thick - the head is recycled from the Target exclusive Geonosis Arena Showdown set, but painted a little better. But it's very nice to not have those black soft-goods eyesores anymore, and the added articulation helps with posing the figure in more dynamic ways.
    "The best version" of a figure I don't want anymore. It's not a bad-looking figure, I just don't care about prequels Anakin anymore, especially at $10 a pop. And that head isn't particularly good, it still doesn't look like Hayden even remotely - although it's not a bad Brian Thompson.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbarada View Post
    From the photos, Luminara and Pablo Jill look to be the best figures in the entire wave. It's just too bad I don't care about either character in the slightest.
    Bingo! Same here.

    Man, that Stormtrooper is just looking worse and worse. If it's not the horrible helmet sculpt or the giraffe neck, it's the crappy paint apps. In fact, the paint on that helmet is worse than anything I've seen in the 5-POA Saga Legends line.
    Totally. I don't understand the thinking here, Hasbro is trying to make a very specific statement about the future of the brand with this line, then they pull cop-out stuff like this that undermines everything. Save a buck and cost the brand 5% more of its loyal customers, what a tradeoff. Same with that R2 in this wave, what they save in costs they lose in loyal consumers.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

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    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  4. #14
    I'm curious then, what has been the best version of the stormtrooper? I recall the one before this yellowed really badly.
    ~Umbra: Light is only a shadow cast by the darkness of the stars

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Umbra View Post
    I'm curious then, what has been the best version of the stormtrooper? I recall the one before this yellowed really badly.
    My favorite by far is the TAC version, the 30th Anniversary Collection figure: http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC20storm.asp
    The close-together legs, helmet size and sculpt, larger lenses, and better proportions hold up more than the successor, the TVC Stormtrooper: http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC41Storm.asp
    I don't like that figure's hips or torso jointing, they're unattractive.

    That said, every stormtrooper seems to yellow with age.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    That said, every stormtrooper seems to yellow with age.
    Then I suppose the version we need is Tartar Control Stormtrooper. I always liked the POTF2 COMMTech one; I even put water on him to test his "battle damage."
    "May the 4th be with you?" "Why yes, thank you for asking."

  7. #17
    Having seen yet one more hideous picture of another Mara Jade production figure, I've canceled my preorder from Amazon. This figure is terribly ugly and I just cannot see spending $11 on a figure I cannot look at. The head sculpt's jawline was bad enough, kinda sunken and hollow and manly, but then the crazy angry eyebrows and the ridiculous wig destroyed it.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
    My favorite by far is the TAC version, the 30th Anniversary Collection figure: http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC20storm.asp
    The close-together legs, helmet size and sculpt, larger lenses, and better proportions hold up more than the successor, the TVC Stormtrooper: http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC41Storm.asp
    I don't like that figure's hips or torso jointing, they're unattractive.

    That said, every stormtrooper seems to yellow with age.
    That 2007 TAC Stormtrooper is actually when I lost all faith in Hasbro's ability to give us a decent Stormtrooper figure. It's also when I started to turn against the idea of unnecessary removable helmets. The helmet on that figure is too soft, gumdrop shaped, and it doesn't look anything like a Stormtrooper helmet in silhouette.

    For me, the helmet is the most important part of the figure. Hasbro could make everything from the neck down look perfectly screen accurate, with 30+ points-of-articulation (all completely invisible); but if they screw the helmet up, then the figure is garbage as far as I'm concerned.

    So far, the 6" Sandtrooper is the first time Hasbro has ever even come close to matching the proper looks of the onscreen Stormtrooper helmets. Every Stormtrooper figure they've made prior to 2013 just looks like junk to my eyes.

    The upcoming 6" Stormtrooper looks like Hasbro is falling back into some of their old mistakes of allowing too much artistic interpretation to enter their Stormtrooper helmet sculpts; but that upcoming Saga Legends 5POA Stormtrooper looks like it might be the greatest 3.75" Stormtrooper Hasbro has ever made.

    Of course, I probably shouldn't say things like that and get my expectations built up too much, because then the figure could never be anything but a disappointment when I actually see it in hand.

  9. #19
    After seeing a few alternate pics out there of loose Mara Jades, I ended up getting an order in on the second batch Amazon got from Hasbro, and that second batch is a better figure, with the hair fitting more or less exactly as expected. It's still a big hair and in the way for turning the head, although not totally locked down, but at least it's not a fivehead. The figure's biggest issue is the orange eyebrows, they just look painted on and not right, which doesn't go well with the somewhat cut jawline and cheeks of the figure. But overall it looks good, moves well, and I like the movable holster going from side to back of the belt.


    As for the Stormtrooper helmet, I don't see what you mean about the silhouette at all.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    "We named the dog 'Chewbacca'!"
    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  10. #20
    I received all of this wave for Christmas thanks to HasbroToyShop actually stocking them, unlike any of the stores in my neck of the woods.

    R2-D2 is plain and could have used more accessories, like a recycled droid factory conveyor belt or something. But he's a good straightforward booster rocket version, and it's nice to finally have a good, clean version of this look.

    The stormtrooper is kind of a mess, with a mispainted "mouth" and paint scratching off his legs too easily. The neck is way too long and the hole in the back is just bad at this point in the line. It's fine for what it is, but what it is is just a sandtrooper who woke up too late and forgot his stuff.

    The 41st elite clone, of course, is missing pretty much all of his significant paint applications. It's just a generic white clone with a few gray stripes added. Totally skippable - I can't believe they missed it so significantly. Someone somewhere said that Hasbro will still be doing a running change, but I agree that's unlikely at this point, especially as it's been carried forward into wave 3 without any changes.

    I actually like Mara Jade more than I thought I would. The hair's definitely too big and '80s-tastic, but at least mine is positioned properly. It's sculpted to sit on her shoulders in a specific way, so that restricts head movement. The eyebrows are pretty severe, but not too ridiculously big. The holster can plug into the back or the side of her belt, which is kind of neat. Again, they really screwed up by not releasing any other version than the catsuit, but it's a nice upgrade to that version (and the first black one, where the others were dark blue, if that matters).

    Now, Luminara is actually quite good. Her headdress pops off all the time, but it's able to rest properly unless it's hindered by her shoulders. The soft goods feel like cheesecloth, and they can be a little difficult to pose and are a bit too long. I haven't had these figures standing up much, but I couldn't really achieve her arena entrance pose due to both the headdress and cloth issues. It looks way better than previous versions, anyway.

    Pablo-Jill is the winner of the group, as expected by many. He's a big, bulky figure, so they jammed in some extra articulation - rocker ankles and wrists designed more like typical heads being the most helpful. I couldn't really get a sitting pose, which I want for the planned-but-not-really-planned body reuse as Coleman Kcaj. But he can do so much more than the 2004 release and he just looks fantastic.

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