We are almost done with the preliminary rounds, so there wasn't much left to match up.
There's another starfighter matchup coming up next week - and it should be a fairly closer fight. I kept all the Classic Starfighters together so they could have at it without "favorite movie bias," etc. For examples, the X-wing faced the TIE Fighter and the A-wing took on the Interceptor in the preliminaries. They are going to stay in the same "weight class" for the next few rounds until one of them emerges a victor. IF the speederbike makes it out of the Quarterfinals, what difference does it make if it takes on ANY one of these starfighters? (to the average person, not the world's biggest bikerscout fan, I mean)
Anyway, for the same reason, the N-1 isn't facing a Classic Starfighter right away, as the ship's merits has nothing to do with whether you like TPM less than the Classic movies, but I am going to add to the discussion in the Quarterfinals, whether you think the Losers amongst the preliminaries, could have faired better against the victors that the challengers from their latest match up faced. In otherwords, could the A-wing have beaten the X-wing if it hadn't already lost to the Interceptor? Sometimes ships are being beaten so bad, it's not worth asking. Other times, we should look at whether we were fair.
The Snowspeeder faced the AT-AT because it was quite honestly a classic match we saw in the actual movie. It's loss was a sure thing, most likely, but when we figure out who the starfighter winner is, could the snowspeeder have defeated that ship? Is anything from that classification going to be able to defeat the AT-AT? If the answer is yes, then it matters. Trust me, I will look into it.
You guys seem to suggest you want the ships ranked? The Losers included the TIE Fighter, Snowspeeder, and A-wing. Which one of those is better than the next, sort of thing, eh? I have been toying with ideas on how to do this, probably with an extra poll, but maybe we should get the preliminaries done first? - Episode 2 stuff is coming out awfully fast and you guys are going to want to see those vehicles in the matches as soon as they come out (well almost - I have to give you guys time to find them and buy them. May 10 and 17 will be Episode Two vehicles in the Preliminaries).
As far as ranking the other vehicles, I've also been recording the statistics on how much they win or lose by. The Scoutwalker's victory is by far the most impressive, as more people voted in that fight than any other match. So it doesn't matter if the T-16 could have beat the Outrider as well, it never would have outgunned the AT-ST with the support the Scoutwalker has around here!
As to the Cruisemissle Trooper and the 3 EU vehicles (airspeeder, single-pod cloud car, and that lazy-boy speederbike), plus the F/X X-wing: I'm leaving them out of it. I strongly doubt there's a lot of fan support for those vehicles anyway, but the Outrider actually was in the movie. Same with the swoop bike (though not the rider). Yes I know the F/X X-wing is a different case - and that's precisely the point. It's actually on real-scale with the action figures, but is it a toy accessory for them, or is it a model-prop with electronics? You can't take figures in and out of it (by design anyway) and TIE Fighters are larger than X-wings (watch the movie), so you can't make the F/X X-wing fight anything... what is it in scale to? (Luke's landspeeder probably....)
So these vehicles are out.
That comes back to your question: what should Slave-One have been matched up against?
There's only 8 vehicles left that haven't had a prelimary fight and are eligible for matchups (and have been released already). There will be 10 more Preliminary fights total, but the E2 stuff will happen after I think you guys have had time to buy it and take it out of the box. So it is possible than the two Slave-One ships (SOTE and AOTC) will face off with one another, but let them get that far first. Again, what's the point? Only one will win. I don't want to get into which was better: ESB or AOTC? You can't even answer that for certain now, and it has nothing to do with the features on the toys. But it's also why I don't think the Jedi Starfighter should jump into the fray right now, either. (because a lot of you DO have that ship by now). The Jedi ship WILL fight in the Preliminaries, just not yet.
The Outrider and Slave-One were both marketed as SOTE (Shadows of the Empire toys). So I thought it was best.
The last 4 "older movie" matches include 2 more starfighter "dog-fights" and 2 "land vehicle fights" - neither of which is fair to pit the Outrider against either. One is a very small, light-vehicle match, the winner who will face the speederbike in the Quarterfinals. And the other is a mid-size vehicle match between land-crafts that can hold 4, 5 or more figures.
So Slave-One seemed to be the best choice for an opponent for the Outrider. But I just doubt that the older Slave-One will make it out of the Quarterfinals, so it didn't matter to much to me that it's going to trounce all over the Outrider now.
Anyway, there's some method to how I pick 'em for these fights, but we'll be careful and double-check our results after each Quarterfinal gets settled, and so-on after that.
The Quarterfinals start May 24.
The Semi-Finals are scheduled to begin July 19
The Finals will be August 16.
The Title Match? - August 30!!!
With each match you guys can continue discussing what you liked and didn't like about each vehicle, and new people can come in and take a walk down nostalgia's lane (or bask in the glory of brand new finds - coming to Battle of the Machines very soon!)
Anyway, this thread is about Dash Rendar's OUTRIDER, and Boba Fett's SLAVE-ONE!
(and your opinions on the matchups are still -and always - welcome!)