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    How could AT-TEs become AT-AT/STs?

    From the design in "clone war", I just don't get how it would occur to anyone that the vehicle would be better if only it were REAL tall and gangly and off balance? New mine technology? Were they designed to operate on planets with something 30ft deep covering them, or what? The almost alligator like design (or maybe toad like) seems SO much better than the newer models seem in the OT. Any theories? Woooooooo!!!
    I'd like to see snowspeeders vs AT TEs, is all I'm saying.
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    Re: How could AT-TEs become AT-AT/STs?

    Originally posted by mabudon
    From the design in "clone war", I just don't get how it would occur to anyone that the vehicle would be better if only it were REAL tall and gangly and off balance? New mine technology? Were they designed to operate on planets with something 30ft deep covering them, or what? The almost alligator like design (or maybe toad like) seems SO much better than the newer models seem in the OT. Any theories? Woooooooo!!! I'd like to see snowspeeders vs AT TEs, is all I'm saying.
    I think that after Palpatine comes to power, he has everything designed in massive scale, just to strike fear in his enemies. He seems to be somthing of an ego-maniac, so it's no suprise that he wants everything to be the biggest and the baddest. Hell, look at Vader's Super Star Destroyer. I think it's an ego thing, most likely for both of them. Or, it coule be that both our Sith Lord friends are compinsating for a shortcoming?

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    Re: How could AT-TEs become AT-AT/STs?

    Originally posted by mabudon
    From the design in "clone war", I just don't get how it would occur to anyone that the vehicle would be better if only it were REAL tall and gangly and off balance
    Actually Mabudon, I was thinking the same thing.
    I can think of a couple possibilities though:

    1) With longer legs, the AT-ATs could probably climb over larger or rougher terrain.

    2) (my favorite) The Empire ruled by fear, and seeing a 50FOOT TALL mechanical monster coming at me would scare me even more than the smaller AT-TEs, even though the AT-TEs look pretty formidable. It's all about intimidation I think.
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    if you are up higher you can see over trees, endor, and for a much further distance then if you were close to the ground.
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    AT-AT: All Terrain Armored Transport
    AT-ST: All Terrain Scout Transport
    AT-TE: All Terrain Transport Escort/Tactical Enforcer

    What I mean by that is the AT-AT is a giant armored troop transporter meant to go in alone and drop off a squadron of troops, the AT-ST does smaller areas with Scouts, it can't carry as many of course, but it seems mostly for just small outposts, and the AT-TE sounds like a little thing to get small squads in there plus to give cover fire while other ships and such drop troops off, not really a "loner" transport. Just a theory.
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    Originally posted by LTBasker
    AT-AT: All Terrain Armored Transport
    AT-ST: All Terrain Scout Transport
    AT-TE: All Terrain Transport Escort/Tactical Enforcer
    What I mean by that is the AT-AT is a giant armored troop transporter meant to go in alone and drop off a squadron of troops, the AT-ST does smaller areas with Scouts, it can't carry as many of course, but it seems mostly for just small outposts, and the AT-TE sounds like a little thing to get small squads in there plus to give cover fire while other ships and such drop troops off, not really a "loner" transport. Just a theory.
    Here's the lowdown from Episode-X about the AT-TE Walker from Episode II. Seems to be able to carry quite a few troops as well.

    The All-Terrain Tactical Enforcer, unlike fast-flying aircraft and fighters, exerts a persistently formidable presence on the ground. For rapid deployment of troops, AT-TE walkers can ride a LAAT/c gunship to the battlefront and are excellent vehicles for penetrating force fields. AT-TE's are also well shielded against electromagnetic pulse weapons and ion cannon fire. Also known as the Clone Assault Walker, the AT-TE stands on six legs, has two squads of clones and a clone on top with a swivel gun. With the passengers unloaded, AT-TEs can run at a terrifying pace. The AT-TE contains a crew of 20 and one IM-6 medic droid.

    Sounds cool to me, but who is coming up with the droid names, we have the waitress droid "FLO", which was the name of the waitress in Mel's Diner that used to say "Kiss My Grits" all the time. And we have IM-6, which sounds like "I am sick".

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  7. #7
    The AT-ATs from the OT were MASSIVE. My favorite scene in the whole of Star Wars will always be the one on Hoth with the AT-ATs firing on the fleeing rebels. There's something about everything in that scene, even the musical cues, that brings tears to my eyes and chills down my spine. It only lasts for a second or two but nothing will ever top that one for me. I read somewhere that they were designed to resemble some kind of giant beasts that some kind of aliens used to take to battle but that was probably just EU of some kind. Back before TPM first came out and the faambas were first described I thought maybe these could have been that beast but in TPM they weren't used as transports and they were nowhere near the size on an AT-AT. The AT-TEs, as ltbasker said, are vehicles that serve a different function than the AT-ATs and AT-STs so I don't think that technology regressed. If one was pitted aganst the other I'm sure the AT-AT would crush the AT-TE like a rebel snowspeeder. Also, while I've heard that many people don't like those spider walker things from that Geonosis battle, there's something VERY starwarsie about them that cannot be denied. They're so cheasy and 80's-like that I think they fit nicely into the movies.
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  8. #8
    The way I look at it, AT-TE's evolve into AT-AT's the same way Republic Cruisers evolve into Star Destroyers...
    The Force is strong with this one.

    Of course, that's my opinion I could be wrong.

  9. #9

    Pretty good points...

    Especially that business about making up for shortcomings. I guess my problem lies in the fact that the ATATs (and yes, I gotta agree, as a kid they RULED, and that first cockpit-perspective scene, with the smoke and confusion is one of the most ominous in the OT, Bosskman) are kinda ridiculous, design wise. Sure, I understand the psychological effect of such a massive outline, but the horrible instability inherent in such a design kinda kills the menace for me, and doesn't seem in keeping with the sense of "harsh mechanical precision" that the Imperials were supposed to embody. I always imagined them to be following the "form follows function" maxim, and from what I saw in "clone war", the older form was way more suited to the function(especially after reading the excerpt Jar Jar posted about their great speed when empty(read retreating)).
    Big machines are great, but if the first thing the ground troops are thinking is "They're HUGE, but it'll just take a few logs/snares and they'll fall over and get destroyed by their own bulk", one would think there could be a better design for striking abject terror into ground troops, IMO.
    Of course, this never woulda come up if it weren't for the sequels.
    Woooooooooo!! Thanks for the response!!
    Oh yeah, and I think those spider thingies are cool too, despite this critical assesment of the ATTEs.
    Something about him reminds me of my older brother, Rex.

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    The whole issue of the Empire rising up and become so dependent on technology to maintain it's grip on the galaxy was one of the underlying themes George ran through all the films. He always wants to show how the spirit and drive of individual beings is much more powerful than just a big brute of machine force. To quote Darth Vader, "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've created. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
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